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I'm sure getting a good laugh out of the responses here!
What is the opposite word for Anthropomorphizing? Hmmmm..Oh, "Zoomorphism"
After raising 23 children, and over 300 dogs, I can tell you with certainty that kids are not dogs.
Kids require a different nurturing, as opposed to training. Yes, they learn from early on that there are consequences to each action. However, part of the parent's job is to limit the negative consequences.
For our children, we encourage freedom of thought, speech and expression. Our dogs have no such rights.
Dogs bark, we shush them..They 'argue', and we quell it.
As children reach an age of accountability, yes, they should be expected to 'earn' some of what they want. However, as parents, we strive to meet their 'needs'. Children shouldn't be expected to 'earn' their breakfast, lunch and dinner! We provide necessities for them out of love and responsibility.
My children were expected to save allowances, or to raise funds through work, for some non-essential things they desired. I never expected them to earn their holiday gifts! I gave those, and many other items, out of love.
However, a child brought up to speak only when spoken to (when allowed to) and don't question orders, don't confront others, get along with everyone, do only what your parents (or the dominant person) expects of you..will most likely end up being the doormat for their spouse and peers, having no original ideas, unable to self-express, and will happily stay in the mailroom where the bosses are many and the challenges are few, and there is no confrontation.
They will fear confrontations, as they have never developed the skills to handle confrontation constructively.
There are some similarities..as in balances of praise and discipline (no leash-pops for the kids, please) . Also, I have never found it necessary to raise my hand or my voice to a child, or a dog, or a horse. (when I have done that, it wasn't out of necessity, but out of ignorance, lack of communication or my own frustration)
For those who plan on using any dog training program for raising their children..I do pray that the strong parental instincts kick in before you ruin your children, and turn out robotical, submissive zombies, that only live to please others...
( I got a laugh about thinking of clicker training kids!)
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(21 of the kids were foster children)
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- I don't see why not. I think all children should learn the sit/down/stay. They should not 'resource guard' and certainly not pull on the leash when walking.
- YES. Yes it would be okay lol.
My parents did the same kind of thing - "you want that piece of chocolate? Okay, as long as you finish cleaning up your toys first."
So the kids are working for a reward/praise - just like training a dog. Although something tells me that kids will respond better to working for a food reward than verbal praise LOL - I used a similar approach with mine - "You can go out and play when you finish cleaning your room".
But I think you should allow the kids to sit on the furniture. :o) - I think that would be a great idea.
- Yes : ) I absolutely plan to raise my children in a no-nonsense disciplined way. My husband and I are much more strict with our niece and nephews than their parents are - they let all sorts of things slide (yelling, hitting, "resource guarding" ; ) , crying for attention, etc.) that we discipline and correct immediately. Of course, compared to them, it makes us seem humorless and overbearing, but I'm a firm believer in setting up kids on the right course, teaching them self-discipline, and teaching them consistency.
We've actually been discussing that very much as of late (not that we're having kids anytime soon) so it's interesting that someone else has brought that up!
@ Schmemdog - lol! - I think kids should be taught to earn things. To many are just given everything they want without having to do anything to get it. Chetco,
They do clicker train kids, and adults. Its called TagTeach. There is some information and videos here http://www.reachingtheanimalmind.com/cha… - YES! That's how I was raised. My mom was a great trainer. Nothing was free, love was unconditional, and she never rewarded my temper tantrums! Rules to live by, with kids and dog.
Now, if only my boyfriend would hold still while I get this e-collar on him, he might learn to pick up after himself! - I sure do ;)
For example: "Avery, if you want something to eat you need to pick up this floor first."
:) - LOL! I am on the fence about that one. It may have something to do with genetics. A weak temperament may very well turn out to be a doormat, like Chetco says. :o)
However, I was raised in an environment of speaking only when spoken to, and praise was not an option, even when the grades were aced. The focus in my home was to be as educated as possible, so we would need to rely on nobody, and have everything we wanted in life through successful careers. I became a doormat for no one, including men. My husband appreciates my lack of "clinging" and my independence.
23 kids???? Chetco, wow!
ETA: Thanks for the add-I had a vision of Guiness! - It is fine if you want the children you are training to grow up and possibly bite you in the Az someday.
- I prefer an electric collar with a long range for kids, but that's just me. ;)
No really, I think a similar but modified program for kids is an excellent idea. I tend to think raising dogs and kids to behave they you want them to is very similar.....both dogs and kids needs rules, consistency, a strong yet fair leader/parent and they need to understand that their behavior has consequences. It's really not all that different in the 'training' department. Obviously kids need more nurturing whereas dogs are just happy to get a pat on the head and a treat but both kids and dogs learn from having to earn what they get through good behavior and receiving consequences for bad behavior.
Ever notice how people with well behaved kids usually have well behaved dogs and vice versa? It's because they understand the importance of rules and consistency with both kids and dogs.
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