Dog Health Questions: Need dog training advice?

I have 2 older dogs. About 7 years old. Neither of them are potty trained and wondering how to go about training them. They also bark excessively. I won't use shock collars. Those hardly work for other dogs anyway. There's also the territorial issue with the food bowls. Those are the only three problems these dogs have. They are very sweet animals. They just need to be worked with a bit. Anyone have good advice for training?

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• I agree dog shock collars don't work. you could always get a spray can and fill it with pure water, and when they bark spray them, this is totallly harmless. But you can get dog collars that when they bark, it lets a out a smell that dogs hate. You can also get collars that when they bark it makes a noise that only dogs can hear.


• re feeding; feed them in their play pens.Crate the dog when you cannot watch her, and she won't mess all over the house, nor will she hurt herself or destroy the house.
  
  If you can't be there to take her out every couple of hours, you need a puppy playpen:
  
  http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/product.as…
  
  They are available from other dealers; this is where I got mine. Buy the largest one you can afford.
  
  Line the floor with Dri-Dek tiles. They are soft, but allow fluids through, and they are too tough for most toy dogs to chew up. They are a foot square, so if you buy the 36" x 36" model, you'll need nine Dri-dek tiles. For a Lab pup, I'd recommend the 48" x 48" model, for which you'll need 16 Dri-dek tiles. Buy one extra (reason below).
  
  http://www.jefferspet.com/ssc/product.as…
  
  Again, they are available from other dealers, but this is where I got mine.
  
  Put the small crate she sleeps in, which should be just big enough for her to lie down in, inside the pen. Put in a water bowl she can't tip and you can feed her in there, too.
  
  She will not mess up the rest of the house, and you can clean the pen when you come home from work. To assure her that you still want her to go outside, take a soiled tile and put it outside where you want her to go.
  
  By the time she's a year old, you won't need the crate or playpen, but the tile might still be useful. If you have a basement, or a walk-in shower in your house, you can train her to eliminate on the tile, wherever you put it, and she'll be safe to leave in the house however long, without having to be so uncomfortable as those dogs that have to hold it till their owner comes home.
  
  The beauty of this method is that it prevents the pup from EVER messing in the house, and that means you NEVER need to yell at him or punish him. You only praise him when he goes where you want.
  
  For two dogs, you need two set-ups: you can't cage them together. Feed them inside the playpen and they won't be able to fight over them.
  
  Barking is always for a reason; you need to figure out why they bark and try and eliminate the cause. If they are barking at outside noises, when you aren't home, leave the television on to a news channel so it always sounds like people talking.