Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Dog Health Questions: What are 2 dog training techniques for come command using positive reinforcement and 2 negative punishment?

What are four possible dog training techniques used to teach come when called? 2 using positive reinforcement and 2 using negative reinforcement. (Food can't be the positive reinforcer!)

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Why would you NOT use food. Do you think your dog will do it for free? In the beginning you use food and toys so the dog WANTS to come to you.

Afterwards you introduce corrections when the dog refuses to come.

Use treats and toys to TEACH "Come"...use corrections so the dog understands that now that he knows what the command means he MUST obey or there will be consequences.

There is no "technique" for come. But the best way to teach it is with another person so they can distract the pup to give you the chance to recall them. Also the other person can hold them back while you call the pup and have a nice reward ready...this builds the dog's frustration, drive, and will to come to you.

If you don't want to use food because you've seen some grumblers moan and complain "A dog who listens for food will only listen for food" don't pay any attention to that...they clearly don't understand the purpose of introducing corrections after the behavior is learned...(funny how they use toys or tugs as rewards, I guess the dogs only listen for their toy too?).

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  • I am with Curtis why not use food in the beginning, knell down call the dog in a positive voice and treat, praise when it comes. A toy can also be used if the dog reacts to it.
    Put the dog on a lead call the dog, gently tug and call him until he comes to you, then praise.

    The negative I have no idea what you are looking for.

    Negative for me would be using some sort of crutch like a clicker or whistle IMPO

    If the dog does not obey when called, or breaks concentration you can put the dog back in position without words and start over.

  • Food cannot be the positive reinforcer? Are you kidding me?
    That is so foolish.
    Rewards are not about you or what you want when you are teaching a dog, it's about what they want and what motivates them.

    Food makes one of my dogs very happy. I would never refuse to use food to TEACH her something unless I absolutely had to. Bringing "happy" to a new exercise makes her excited about doing it and as a result far more likely to have a good feeling about it when we're done. Once they have been introduced to the exercise with food, "happy mom" becomes a more primary positive reinforcer.

    Once my dogs know a command, a leash correction, voice correction, or stim from their collar is my source of 'punishment'.

    RULE #1 for recalls: NEVER EVER call your dog in a NON-emergency if you are not a) confident the dog will come and b) willing and able to back up your request

    Breaking rule #1 is the TOP reason for dogs not coming when they are called. If people spent more time training and less time teaching their dogs to ignore them, they would have much better success rates. I see it every single time my dogs and I go to the dog park. When you call your dog non-stop or you call them 85 times before finally just giving up on them - you are teaching your dog to ignore you.

    Some easy ways to train a recall are with really delicious treats and another person - call the dog back and forth and reward like crazy.
    Also, using a long line outside and reeling the dog in after you give the command.
    Recently I heard a trainer suggest calling and when the dog got close they tossed the treat back between their legs - this is great for "blow by" dogs who will come to you but not allow you to grab them.
    Obedience classes can be great practice for a recall and the trainer can give you advice specific to your dog.

    Note: I used an e-collar on my dogs, and I think they are a great tool. I was also taught HOW to use the collar by two very experienced trainers before I EVER put one on my dogs. Do they work? Absolutely. Can you seriously ruin a dog by trying to use one when you don't know what you're doing? Without a doubt!

  • Training a dog can be hard work, but have patience. To teach your dog to come, you may start inside. Have your dog across from you and calmly and clearly say "come". If your dog does, in a "happy voice" say "good come". Continue doing this, and your dog will learn to come in no time!
    Positive reinforcement:
    1. "Happy voice" and petting
    2. Toy

    Negative reinforcement:
    1. A strong "no"
    Remember to not over react to you're dog's behavior. Weather it's good or bad, make sure your voice and actions are clear, so your dog can both understand the command, and recognize weather it has done a good or bad job. Good luck!

  • Obvious verbal praise and physical affection for positive
    For negative, these don't always work as well, but a choke collar you can tighten it when they dont come. Or you can get a shock collar with a hand held control that you shock them while calling out "come" until they come towards you, then you stop shocking them.

    P.S. This is literally what the little pamphlet that comes with a training collar says. No dog I have ever had has ever needed anything so drastic because food IS the ultimate motivator. But it is a trainign technique

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