Why is it training classes often state they cant take aggressive dogs, i appreciate they are trying to protect the other dogs but if they are on lead and is controlled whats the problem surely a dog with aggressive tendancies needs the help more than the others, the owners are obviously trying but often there is no support. My boxer was expelled from training because of his issues and we were never able to help him.
Really gets to me when owners try and are not allowed training is about dealing with all issues do you not agree??????
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What sort of aggression? Defensive fear based aggression? Canine-aggression because it's a characteristic of the breed? Appropriate aggression from a working dog doing its job under the control of its handler?
Following a bite incident one of my Dobermanns exhibited defensive aggression. To control his behavior he had a half check {I wish I had known about the prong collar}, given an immediate snap correction for aggressive behavior & praised for focused calm behavior.
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The training method I chose was geared to the dogs temperament & response to environmental stimuli.
Training classes would have been counterproductive for fear based aggression & one of the two behaviorist I met was worse than a waste of money.
It was very rewarding when he walked past dogs without hackles raised, growling & lunging. Genetic fear based aggression can never be cured, but the behavior of the dog can be controlled & it's environment managed.
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- A typical training class is not the place for a dog with fear or aggression issues. More and more classes are popping up specially for these types of dogs though.
The format in these classes is different, the set up is different, its a whole different ballpark than a regular training class. In fact the first time you see one you'd probably get the impression that they are down right weird. But they really do wonders, the changes are nothing short of amazing.
Other than special classes there is the one on one training options. - Because general sit/stay trainers don't deal with aggression - they train a dog to obey commands. They don't always work with the behavior aspect of training and many methods that are used for working with aggressive dogs are beyond the capabilities of a regular sit/stay trainer.
What an aggressive dog NEEDS is one-on-one time with a BEHAVIORIST. Not a trainer. Training and training classes come along AFTER the dog has been seen by a behaviorist and after preliminary work has started on the BEHAVIOR aspect.
http://www.arkanimals.com/ark/dg_define_… - Not really. Obedience classes are for obedience training. It would kind of kill the purpose if there is a animal aggressive dog in the class b/c the trainer would be focused on HIS issues, and the other dogs would probably be too distracted by his behavior to do anything productive.
What you could have done, is get a trainer to work with your dog one on one. - Depends on the type of training class. If you have a basic obedience class it can be very distractive to have an aggressive dog in the class. Dogs can only concentrate on one thing at a time. If the others are concentrated on your dog, and your dog on them, they won't learn anything.
If your dog has aggression issue you may need to hire a trainer to come to your home. If you're lucky you will find a class that is devoted to dealing with aggression. - Hi,
I believe aggressive dog can't be treated in training class. Contacting a professional behaviorist would be great. Here's more info:
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http://lnk.nu/dogtime.com/ry0.html - 99.9999999999999% couldn't recognize real "aggression" if it bit their face off.
They shove responsibility for their complete lack of training & discipline ( & spine) onto the poor animal.
Anybody trying to take an untrained,ill-mannered spoiled rotten beast into a bunch of dogs has just PROVEN their stupidity ignorance & LACK of any sort of control! Of course nobody would be stupid enough to let that disaster happen!
3 whole minutes of "Put this collar on it & CORRECT the crap out the monster-like THIS !" should cost a about a dollar. - Obedience classes are to train dogs, if you wan't to get a aggressive dog sorted out you can take them to police dog seminars or dog boot camp.
I think obedience dog classes should face dogs with aggression problems, because if they have that much knowledge of a dog to have the audacity to making a dog obedience class and can't help aggressive dogs. What annoyed me when i was 15 i went to this German Shepherd branch they said they can fix dog's with problems and do obedience so i thought yes this sounds good for my pup. But my dog was a Czech working line German Shepherd and when i was 15 i didn't realise they are alot more stronger than other German Shepherds. And it was really good with it's commands, but it had a dog aggression issue which distracted him, so they left me out everything, i got so annoyed i never came back. Then i met this guy he educated me about German Shepherds, i then got interested in the protection dog criteria, and i started going to Schuztchund, French Ring, Knpv and Belgian ring centres. - As a class training instructor, I do not like dog aggressive dogs in dog class. This is a very dangerous situation plus the aggression issue needs to be worked with by desensitization and not by flooding if at all possible. Most dogs are not under control in a training class which is why they are there especially during the first few classes. A dog on a leash is not under control if he is pulling his small owner around to see, play or fight with the other dogs. Plus dogs (and their owners) like these need more individual attention which takes away from class time which is not fair to the other students. While it is true that aggressive dogs also need help they are better off being in a program where the trainer is experienced in working with aggression, either by themselves or in a class situation where there is only 1-2 other dogs, and/or in private training until some of the aggression issues are resolved. An aggressive dog in a class of 10-20 students and their dogs makes training class very dangerous for everyone.
- The dog training class doesn't want to put the other dogs at risk. Those other dogs taking the class may not be agressive but have other bad behaviors that need to be fixed, so they deserve to be at the class too. For dogs with aggression issues, there are private trainers that come to your house so just because the dog cant be trained with other dogs doesnt mean the dog cant be trained. I agree that aggressive dogs should not be allowed to train with other dogs because aggression is obviously very dangerous; even if the dog is on a leash, it doesn't mean that the dog will be controlled. Dogs with aggression problems need a lot of training with a private trainer. If you weren't able to afford a trainer then there should have been a lot of re-consideration because if that dog was aggressive and something happened, it would have been your fault, not the dog's.
- 1) Most decent trainers are capable of training "the average" dog. They haven't the knowledge nor experience to deal with dogs that have severe "issues" swaying from the "norm".
2) In group classes, there is minimal time that can be devoted to each dog within the class. A "problem" dog that needs undivided focus is taking the time from the other students, who have paid their dues also. It is about fairness to the majority.
3) An aggressive dog disrupts the class. It causes tension for the other dogs as well as the humans. Not a good atmosphere for learning. I also feel strongly that the other dogs in the class should not feel as if they are "bait". It is a liability.
There are "steps" to training. Obedience classes are about training obedience. Agility classes are about training agility. Hunt training is about ....Etc etc. If a dog can not maintain self control, it can not be trained in an obedience class. If a dog hasn't basic obedience it can not be trained for agility.
I am an agility trainer. I love training agility and I am very good at training students and their dogs. Many dogs come with very minor issues, lack of focus, sloppy recalls, wanting to run and visit the other dogs. No biggy. I expressly state we will not accept aggressive dogs. Why? Because: I am training "agility", not solving behavior problems, I am not qualified to deal with aggressive dogs, I do not want to deal with aggressive dogs, nor does having an aggressive dog in class offer a safe, enjoyable training environment to others.
There is no trainer that can teach all.
Just as with people, for specifics you seek "specialists".
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