Monday, February 6, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Hey i need some advice.. dog training an adult dog. HALP ME?

heres the low down. our friends have asked me to train they're dog, 2-3 year old lab. but theres a problem. hes very unruly. they tried training him, but to no avail. basically, they cant be consistant, and they arent pack leaders. hes terrified of the father of the house, he has alot to deal with and will scream at them if they disobey, so they half obey. they have six kids, so they dont have the time to train them. why they GOT a dog i have no clue. but ive taken the responsibility of training him. im doing pretty good, ive taught him to stop running out the door, to loose leash walk around free roaming chickens (they own chickens) but i need the entire family to be consistent and patient with training him. i dont want to tell them what to do either.. so i have to find a way to teach him. oh, im a fifteen year old male btw. basically, my question is this. can you train a dog who will listen to no one but you, the family isnt consistent, and no previous training? i refuse to give up on this dog. any tips for me?

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Bless you, addblades! It sounds like you're doing great with this dog, and that you've already figured out the problem lies not with him, but his family. I've trained many dogs, and consistency is key for KEEPING them trained. You've done all you can; now it's up to the poor dog's family. Instead of TELLING them what they must do, is there a way to SUGGEST it? Perhaps look up sites online that back up these ideas of calm consistency (yes, Cesar Millian is good) and print them to show to the family? Or go to the library and find similar books to make copies of certain pages to show them (with key passages highlighted)? That way the info comes from an expert and not just the "neighbor kid" in a less threatening manner. Hang in there, addblades. Getting a retriever to calmly walk around chickens is amazing!

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  • You can train that dog all you want, but if his "owners" who he lives with can't be consistent and reliable with what you teach, the dog will never learn it. The dog might exhibit good behavior while with you but likely not with them, unless everyone acts uniformly. You need to sit down with his owners and explain to them that they also need to have a hand in the dogs' training.

  • Watch dog whisper. The thing is with dogs older than a year, is it requires a lot more patience and work.

  • well your right about that. they dont have the time or patience for a dog right now but sadly i doubt they will admit it and find him a better home. but in the mean time. before you try to teach him any commands or do any training take him for a good run. get his physical energy out of the way and his mind will be more focused on what your trying to teach him. also food or a toy is a good reward when he does something right. hand signals along with a vocal command can be very productive and remember, its all about repetition. the more he does something the more hell remember it. as for getting him to do a command for his owners. try and show them how you get him to obey you. tell them to face the dog and raise their hand over the dogs head while they say "sit" in a loud and firm voice. once he does tell them to reward him with food. after a day or two you can take away the food and just say good boy and give him a pat on the head. hope this helps!

  • Tell the owners that it was stupid to get a dog, they are not good dog owners, and that if they want the dog to bond with them, they should make time to train them.

  • You really have to train the family LOL The dog already respects you and listens, so that's not the real issue here.
    If they won't (can't?) listen to you, you training him won't matter as soon as he's back with his family. They'll revert back to what they do and your training won't really hold up.
    If possible, maybe do some of your training sessions at their home, when everyone (if at all possible) can witness what goes on. Show them what you do and how you do it. As you're doing the lesson with the dog, take a moment to explain what you're doing and why (sneak in tips on how they can communicate with their dog better; not to let him on furniture or get food or treats without sitting or some other command, etc.etc..) and they might learn without feeling like being told what to do. It may be possible they have no idea what to do.
    Good luck. :)

  • It's REALLY hard to train a dog if the owners are not going to train them the same way. It would be in the dog's best interest for you to tell them how to train him. In big families with dogs that don't listen, most of the time they give away the dog. That can be very bad for him. They must be consistent if they want to keep him.
    Tell them and show them how you train him. Tell them that if they want to keep him, this is how it has to be all the time! Training a dog takes a lot of practice. If you can, try watching a few episodes of "It's me or the dog" on animal planet. It's a show about a woman who goes around and helps owners train they're dogs. Have the owners of the dog watch this show too. They HAVE to understand that consistency is the key to training.

    DO NOT use physical force to train a dog!! That can be really dangerous. Forcing a dog into a submissive state is not going to do anything good!! In the wild, the "pack leader" of the wolves does not force another wolf onto their back, the bad wolf will do it on his own to show the pack leader that he is sorry. You can get seriously hurt using physical force!!

  • Sounds like you need to train the owners rather than the dog!!lol!

    If you really can't tell them what to do i suggest trying to get the kids involved in training him. kids tend to enjoy being able to make their dog do things and at least if you get the kids to be consistant with you the majority of the household will be training him while you arent around. maybe the parents will pick it up from the kids once they see how well he can behave for them?

    Failing that be firm and tell them that unless they are prepared to be consistant then you will be wasting your time, they will never have a well behaved dog and they may as well rehome him now because that is what will happen in the long run anyway.
    Good luck

  • Obedience training is the foundation for establishing a better relationship between you and your dog. Obedience training helps establish the owner in the role of "pack leader". Obedience will lay down clear behavior guidelines that your dog can follow. A well-behaved, obedient dog is more than just a pet of pride. The difference lies largely in the training, and good training can save a dog's life.

    These articles will give you tips about how to best train your dog.

    Dog Training - http://www.dog-pound.net/dog-training.ht…

    Dog Obedience - http://www.dog-pound.net/dog-obedience.h…

    Repetition, consistency, practice and correction are what it takes to train a dog to be happy and responsive. If you follow these simple steps you will find that your puppy can grow into an obedient well-adjusted dog.

    Repitition and Consistency in Dog Training - http://www.dog-pound.net/repetition-cons…

  • Watch the dog whisperer! He is brilliant! He might give you a few ideas.

  • As long as you assert your dominance as the 'pack leader', he should be easy to train. You can do this by pinning him on his back when he is bad (belly up means submission). Another way to be the pack leader is to bring food to him, instead of leaving it out/free choice.
    Once dominance is established, the dog should respect you and listen, which will make him a lot easier to train.

  • Tough to train a dog more than a year old. Try using physical force...

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