Sunday, February 5, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Rude comments about my dog training?

I am 24 and have just moved in with my dad bc I'm pregnant and he is letting me live here rent free to save up for my baby (I was paying for my own apartment before). I have a little six pound pom who was crate trained at my apartment when i couldn't watch her and now gets to run around free bc they have a dog door.

She is having some trouble learniing to go outside so the vet said I should train her like a puppy again. That means whenever someone can't watch her she needs to be in the crate. She never whines in the crate, just falls asleep and eats and drinks the food and water in there. She ONLY whines if it has been a long time (6-7 hours) and she needs to go out. The only time she was ever in there that long was when I went to bed at my old apt and she was fine.

My dad thinks crate training is cruel and will take her out of the crate if I put her in there when I leave. The problem is that he doesn't watch her after, she poops or pees, and he gets mad.

I am pissed at him for letting her out and have told him multiple times not to do it, and if he thinks crate training is "abusive" to call the vet or the aspca but he just laughs at me for getting mad. Tonight he had a mock conversation with my dog saying "Roxie, I just want to take care of you, sorry your mom is such a fruit loop." UM EXCUSE ME???

What should I do- use the money I have been saving to move out?

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If your father doesn't have the sense to know the dog might need to go outdoors and do its business every hour or so, he's hopeless!

Crate training isn't abusive, but i think that 6-7 hours during the day is a long time; however, i see you can't help it right now - and from what you say the dog is content. But this isn't your issue...

Maybe you could use some reverse psychology on your dad? You could approach him in a happy and carefree manner, and let him know you've been thinking about the dog situation... and you can see his point about the dog being crated so often. You could tell him that you are very happy he takes an interest in the dog, but you worry about floors getting stained and soiled, and can see it's upsetting for him.

You could say you think he and the dog would do much better if he could take the time to coax her outside every hour or so... and ask him what he thinks about that.

that's the only thing i can think of.. but play it up, as if you're thrilled your dad has taken an interest in the dog.


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  • This is dreadful Apply for section 8 housing and get out of your dad's place as quickly as possible. It is not good for you, the dog or your pregnancy. For now take the dog with you anytime you leave the house IN her crate.

  • Crating a dog is perectly normal, it saves your home! I would get your dad to call a vet or animal shelter and let him hea it for his self.

    grats with the baby :)

  • Hell yes. Either that or padlock the cage and hide the keys. Your dad is the fruit loop.

  • Well if you dad wants to allow the dog to run around and it has accidents then he really can't be upset and should just clean it up. You should tell your dad that crating to a dog is really like their den it's not cruel unless as you said the dog is going to be in there for a very long time. You should have your father talk to dog behaviorist, vet or even someone at a local shelter they can explain the benefits of crate training. Of course in the end he might just not agree with it and that's ok. However your father needs to respect that you think this method of training is ok. After all this is your dog. When your baby is born if he does not agree with your parenting methods is he going to do the exact opposite whenever his grandchild is left alone with him.

    You could always teach this dog to use the dog door. You might check out this links. Though even with that a crates a good place for a dog/puppy to be if one is out of the house or is not able to supervise.

    http://www.radiofence.com/dog-doors/dog-…
    http://www.ehow.com/how_2309675_train-do…
    http://www.collargirl.com/dog-door.html

  • You are 24. You are at an age that requires your own home. Move out, even if it means finding a more compatible roommate [and one more expensive] than your Dad [ My opinion is that he sounds like a controlling idiot]. This may address your immediate pet problems and a plethora of other problems that you can't begin to anticipate right now. Go now! Grow up! Be free! Run! Save yourself! Have your baby for yourself. You can do it. woohoo. Your baby will love you, your pet will love you, you will love you, I love you for just imagining it .... It will take strength - blessings

  • Your dad has been supportive to you and since it's his house (and you'll always be his little girl) he feels he has the right to tell you what to do.

    With that said, I understand you are not a little girl and you have a right to train your dog especially if it falls under your vet's recommendations.

    My suggestion? Next time you go to the vet, take your dad with you. Tell him you want him to meet your vet and if he has any questions or concerns this would be a great time to ask (and get educated).

    At lease it seems your dad loves animals and is accepting of the changes in his household - it could be the other way around. i know I would not be accepted with pets...

  • YOur dad is humanizing the dog. He feels because a person would not be okay with being locked in a crate, the dog is not okay with it. Let him know treating the dog like a person is cruel. Ask if he'd like to be treated like a dog and be expected to lick himself when grooming himself, sniff other people's but in the "get to know ya" phase of meeting someone and to pee outside on a walk in front of everyone wearing no clothes of coarse since dogs don;t wear clothes. When he is done laughing, explain to him that it is a dog's NATURE to want to be in a place (like a crate) that is like a den as they are den animals. It makes them feel safe nd comfortable etc. Of coarse when you are home, he should not be crated and should be out and be with you and getting exercise etc but, until he is potty trained, he cannot run loose. Tell your dad the more he takes him out when you are gone the longer it will take to potty train him and that once he is potty trained, he will have free reign and your dad will then be able to stop crying over this "cruelty". Also, make him a bet that even once he is potty trained, if you leave the crate door open, your dog will now and then go in the crate on his own to nap.

  • Maybe you could have a talk with him and tell him "Dad this is how I'm trying to housebreak her, when she goes outside I do this, she needs to go outside this many times...and if you don't want to leave her in her crate can you please do this so she gets these directions from both of us? It'll stop her from going in the house which I know you hate."

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