Monday, February 13, 2012

Dog Health Questions: What do you think is wrong about this type of dog training?

So these people are trying to potty train this older dog they found.
First they always keep her food and water down.
Almost always give her treats when she comes back inside even if she hasn't gone to the bathroom yet.
There gone half the day with her stuck inside the house with her food and water down.
Lets her back inside even if she hasn't gone to the bathroom.
And when they find her pee spots they race at her with the rug and almost shove it in her face and they hit her a little with a Fly swatter. And they also hold up a newspaper and smack it in there hands, like there going to hit her and at the same time yell at her telling her she's been a bad girl. And they don't give her attention after she's been bad.
(It's quite scary just watching how they discipline her.)

So I think they're going about this training all the wrong way.
I'm sorry but I don't think it's like that, correct me if I'm wrong, ok.

I'm a cat owner, and I'm not sure how to train dogs, so how would you potty train a dog.

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You know, you put a lot of extraneous information in here to make them look like bad people rather than trying to get a real answer when you admit you have no idea if this is a good way to train or not.

Whether the dog has it's food down or not and whether or not the dog gets attention or is rewarded for coming in the house has nothing to do with training the dog to go to the bathroom outside.

The issue is that they need to time their correction well and need to provide the dog with feedback so it can make the best choice. My first choice in training is to wait outside until i get the behavior i want and praise, praise, praise. If there is an accident, i try to interrupt it so that the dog can finish it outside (and again be told how wonderful it is). If the dog continues to use other areas out of convenience, i might use adversive training if the timing was correct. Otherwise i would continue with looking to praise the dog for the correct behavior rather than correcting for the wrong.

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  • This is a animal abuse... this dog may very well turn on the owner because she will be constantly frightened. Step in and say something or call the proper authorities to assist you.

  • Yes that is completely wrong, that's why the dog isn't trained yet. Most dogs do not understand that form a disapline, and the poor thing has got to be so confused.

  • You potty train an older dog just as you would a new pup, and THAT, is the WRONG way.

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  • yes that is wrong. they shouldnt leave the food down all the time. leaving the water down is fine. as for house training a puppy, if you catch them going to the toilet in the house, tell them 'no' in a firm voice, immediately pick them up and take them outside. when they go outside, give them lots of praise. i never let my puppy back into the house until she has been to the toilet, and if i have to lock her outside, then thats what i do. they shouldnt never hit a puppy or dog. its animal abuse and they shouldnt shove its face in its mess if it went in the house, it will only make it scared of them

  • Elimination is a necessity of life. When trying to correct a problem of this nature, you have to catch the dog in the act, or within 3 seconds. Shoving a soiled rug into her face, well after the fact, is telling her that she shouldn't eliminate. That totally confuses the dog.
    Hitting a dog is NEVER acceptable. You are so right on all points, but I don't know what you can do about it - technically, this is dog abuse, and you may be able to report them to the authorities, but do you really want to do this?
    Using a crate to train a dog is the easiest way. The dog stays in the crate, and is let outside to eliminate. If the dog doesn't do his "dooty", then it goes back in the crate. However, if the dog does potty while outside, then it gets lots of praise, pets and treats.
    An untrained dog should be left in the crate while the owners are out, and then they can come home, not looking for a problem, let the dog out, and owner/dog can have a pleasant relationship.
    I have to chuckle, because most cats won't be trained at all! They just use their wiles to train us!

  • Absolutely.

    A dog can NOT be trained if the food is left on the floor all the time. It makes training impossible. Swatting her and pushing her nose in it only confuses her because she has no idea what she's done wrong.

    You HAVE to tell them that they are training her in a way that will cripple her. Yelling and screaming at a dog only makes it confused and upset. If she's peed in the house five minutes or an hour ago you can't scream and yell at the dog.

    They need to watch her and learn her habits so they can take her outside. If she's not house trained, she won't ask to go outside! They need to crate her when they aren't watching her and let her outside every single hour and praise her when she goes outside. She needs to only get treats when she uses the bathroom outside, and she needs to get a treat the MINUTE she uses the bathroom, not when she's coming inside.

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  • This girl I lived with for a while had a chihuahua that was never house trained because she did all the wrong things. She took "rubbing her nose in it" too literally, and would actually get the dog's face soaking wet with urine while yelling at her, and smacking her butt really hard, then throw it outside while she cleaned it up, and then take her upstairs and give her a cold bath, scolding her all the while. And her boyfriend (who was around all the time, would always say "you're not being mean enough!") Imagine my surprise when the dog was terrified of humans, chewed rocks, dug holes, pooped and peed all over the house, cowered the the corner whenever anyone talked to it or approached it...

    We attempted to show her how to train a dog by taking our dog to obedience class, showing her all her new tricks, training in front of her, describing ways she can train her.

    Some people just think dogs are stupid, and the only way they'll understand they've done something wrong is by yelling and hitting. Haven't seen her in a while, but at that point the dog was almost a year old and not potty trained.

    People suck.

  • all we did was take her outside to the grass immediatly after she had peed inside saying 'no' sternly, eventually she got the idea that the grass was the place to go.

    The way you mentioned is animal cruelty, the hitting and keeping water low. You can't be angry at a dog for not being trained properly, thats the owners fault.

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