I've used a mix of reward and bribery and it's worked great! my terriers surprise people by how obedient they are - heck, sometimes they surprise me! LOL
I have tapped a nose when they were tiny and biting but only once or twice ;-)
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I have to say I think this one depends on the dog some dogs respond very well to treat and praise others don't really care we use mostly treats and praise with out puppy but our older dog could care less about treats or would only obey if he knew he would get a treat and on that note he also could care less about praise. We tried a lot of methods with him and he still has problems but we won't go into that we have had trainers that helped us with his issues using various methods.
I think you should start with any method that does not hurt the dog and only uses gentle corrections such as a slight but quick leash tug with a nylon training collar but always with the guidance of a professional trainer and then if you have to try another method I very highly recommend you got to a pro
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- I think praise is the best but it depends on how smart your dog is. If it isnt so smart you can use clicker or punishment
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- Treat and praise -- that is all that is needed with my chi!
- Clicker. What a marvelous way to teach a dog what is expected of it.
- I am a huge fan of clicker training. After the initial training to the clicker, it made all our other tricks so much easier, and faster.
- For obedience I use a Martingale collar with lead corrections as necessary, rewarding with 95% praise (verbal & physical) and 5% treats (at random). The less I am reliant upon treats to have my dog respond accurately to my commands, the better. So 5% seems to be a good number that's working for *us*. He feels plenty rewarded with a short ear scratch and a "good boooy", and the *chance* that he *might* get a treat this time helps to ensure a quicker response.
- Reward has worked with all my dogs and they have al been well behaved, one needs extra help, she's had a rough life but she's doing pretty good and she know when she does, looks back when walking like how am I doin', never physical or yelling.
- I'd have to go treats with praise. The combination always works great!
- I have a Dachshund and I have had to use rewards and punishment. Punishment is only reserved for when she runs after a person or animal that she has seen outside well really just when she chases animals because we have a problem with people tresspassing in our yard to get to the next street since we dont have a fence and if she sees someone and we are outside she will go after them. Oh well that is there problem but sometimes she will see a cat outside and if I go to leave she will bolt out the door if I am not paying attention and there is no way to stop her so I spank her but in that situation but I make sure if there is a cat myself and everyone else knows to watch when opening the door and she doesnt chase them as far as she used to either lol. She will sit pretty forever just for a hollywood star liver treat lol.
- For me its the carrott and the stick method, I could count the amount of times I've had to slap my dog on one hand and should only be as an immediate reaction to very bad behaviour. For example, he used to chase horses on moorland on walks one day he chased a horse when I told him to heel and the horse tried to kick him he ran back an got an immediate slap on the backside, it wasn't enough to hurt him but he has never done that since and can now walk amongst them safely (under close supervision, naturally). Having said that (before the vegans firebomb me) bribery is by far the best way of training and produces the best results everytime.
By the way vegans and thumbsdowners, Reward=bribe in the dog world, get real, your softy methods are the cause of dogs running riot all over the country, "I never give him discipline, all we need is cuddles" - In order to keep our puppies attention, I use a really excited voice. For example, for the come command, I'll wait until he's distracted, then I'll tell him "Ruger, come!" in an excited voice. He'll perk up and run over to me. I verbally praise him then will give him a treat. I try to keep it fairly hyper and excited, lots of positives to keep him enjoying it... I want obedience to be a delight, not a chore-I want a MOTIVATED dog! :)
Or, say he has something he's not supposed to. I'll swap it out for a treat. I'll hold a cookie up to his nose, and tell him "out", when he releases it I'll FIRST verbally praise him THEN give him the treat. I want him to associate verbal, not food as the positive reinforcement.
There is definately a time for consequences, but really, I try to keep it enjoyable for him, but still maintaining that I am leading him, and that he has to do as I tell him...
I'm reading Bobbie Anderson's book right now, she's brilliant! - Lure/reward. "Reward" is anything that the dog wants or likes: treats, a walk, play time, a car ride, petting, etc. I always have students praise in addition to giving a more tangible reward so that eventually the praise is more pleasurable to the dog and can be used alone. I have met very few dogs who find praise rewarding enough on its own to truly learn a behavior - and those have been Pit Bulls who would do just about anything to make their owners happy!
- I use a conglomeration of clicker, treat/reward and praise. I don't think bribery gets you anywhere- I have used it for an INITIAL attempt at something- to get my dog ON the dogwalk, for instance- but I find that with bribery, more often than not, the dog is simply following the reward- not actually "learning" anything-
I don't use clicker for anything I want to stick- anything that is important for me. I'm not smart enough! LOL! I will use it for tricks, because I enjoy the method and I love watching the dogs respond.
I use praise if/when my dog will work for praise. Not all dogs will. In fact, few dogs will actually work for praise.
The treat/reward is the most effective method for ME. I hear people all the time saying "My dog won't work without a treat"- So- give him/her a treat! I see no reason to "not" give my dog a treat if it's available. They still get a treat for going in their crates- etc. My dogs get treated for the things I ask for so often, that the few times they do it without is no big deal- they will still do it happily.
As for punishment- I find it is extremely ineffective. The only time I would use this is in extreme measures (life threatening)- Most of the people who use punishment don't do it consistently or when they need to- and it usually backfires.
The most important thing to remember, is that not all training methods work for all dogs. Since my oldest girl was my first obedience/agility dog- and was so stubborn- I went through LOTS of training methods trying to find out what worked! LOL! - That depends greatly upon the dog's temperament and what I am training for, but, I am a big proponent or Bill Koehler and his methods.
They have worked for many years and many dogs long before I was even born.
I am not a believer at all in the new clicker training methods or the bribery techniques that newbies are using.
Hope I helped!! - My favorite method is the Koehler Method of Dog Training (KMODT). Most things called "methods" are usually a combination of tips and tricks and techniques mixed and matched as needed.
However, KMODT is a method developed after the author trained 10,000+ dogs (either personally or dogs that were in his classes) and extensive records and stats were kept that were used in the creation of his method that works for the VAST majority of dogs (regardless of temperament or breed).
It uses no food.
The dog is taught what a command means and the dog is practiced and practiced and practiced. Then once the dog shows (via various tests along the way) comprehension, corrections are introduced and distractions are used early on so that they become a cue to the dog to pay closer attention to his work. Because teaching is done before corrections it is quite fair to the dog--meaning the corrections aren't used randomly and the dog understands his job and responsibility.
Praise is also used LIBERALLY to be sure the dog understands when he's doing things right. The goal is off-leash reliability and done "by the book" most dogs will get there in about 3 months of steady, 6-days-a-week work.
On the opposite end of the spectrum...if a person refused to use corrections I would recommend Clicker Training because it is similar in the sense that the small steps prevent loop holes in training. Done well...it probably still takes longer, but better than the wishy washy in between methods, in my opinion.
I don't consider either a nose tap or rolling a dog on his back a "Method" -- each of these is an example of a discipline technique... a way to correct something you dislike. Yelling or physically hitting a dog is NOT training and just a lack of personal control over one's emotions...hey sometimes I get mad enough to yell but that has NOTHING to do with training.
Training is about getting a dog TO DO something on command in response to a verbal, hand, or environmental cue each and every time, reliably. Obviously there are subtleties and the common adage of "every interaction is training" has truth to it. - Praise and reward seem to do the trick for my two Labs, never punishment, this only instills fear in them, a firm "No" is all that is required.
Although Labs love to please, so I think I've got an head start. - I only train using Praise. This reinforces to the dog that you are the pack leader because it teaches them to work for your approval. Bribery spoils the dog, clickers are irritating (to me), and punishment is too sophisticated and confusing for a dog to understand. When I must punish my dogs, I roll them over on their backs and get in their face and say NO. They get the message immediately.
- I tend to like the "praise" idea, but not all dogs will go for that. My dog usually doesn't care how good of a girl I think she was, so she usually gets treats. Not always, but usually. With that said, she'll do pretty much anything for a tiny little treat. . . so it's tiny little treat pieces she usually gets unless I'm lazy and out of pre-cut pieces.
I do yell (or at least sound very unhappy) at her sometimes if need be. That *plus* praise/treats when yelling made her stop and decide to follow my rules worked really well for house-training.
Clickers haven't really fascinated her ever, other than that she's learned to associate that with getting a treat if she hears it and comes running into the room from elsewhere in the house. It works as a rather distinctive "come", but that's been about it for us. - Any positive reinforcement method that works for your pup. My pup is more motivated by praise than treats.
- hi a mixture of praise bribery and reward hugs
- I'm a balanced trainer. This means that I use the method that works best for the dog that I'm training. I use a good combination of treats, marker word, placing by hand, and praise to train a behavior that the dog doesn't know. Once the dog starts to understand the behavior, I start adding corrections. A correction can be anything from saying "NO" to placing the dog back into position, to a leash pop. The correction depends on the dog. Some dogs need a gentle reminder, others need a firmer correction to get the point across. I also will train in more distracting environments so that I know that my dogs have an understanding what I want.
I don't "Bribe" because that is dishonest to the dog. If I want my dog to sit for a treat, I will have a treat available. I will not pretend to have a treat as that is dishonest. I also do not "Yell". Dogs have excellent hearing. In fact, they hear better than people do. I give my commands in a soft firm voice. I don't beg, plead, or nag either as dogs are very smart and training in this manner demeans their intelligence.
I train using fair and consistent methods which dogs understand. Notice I said "methodS" not method. I make the method fit the dog not the dog fit the method. Good trainers have many different ways of making a dog understand what they want them to do. - I will only use reward and praise, no yelling, and I hate the clicker, some dogs just do not respond to it and others do, mostly don't....I do not yell at my dogs or punish them, if they don't get it right, we train till it is done right.
and then if still does not get it, I just sit down in the grass and cry...just kidding ha ha
it is in your voice, your praise, the touch of your hands how well you can train a dog........the dogs will respond more to kindness than any other method of training, and anyone can disagree with that, but I truly believe this and this is the way I train my dogs and anyone else's dog, and my Jr. Handler classes are trained in this method also.....and everyone of them have had good results..
its not what you train the dog, its all in how you train the dog.
Breeder/show/handler 15 yrs
Gentle hand, gentle voice, you don't have to use brute force on any dog to train......and I have helped train Great Pyrenees and they are hard headed, but it was done with ease and done the right way...
Sorry, but I am very passionate on how dogs should be treated, no matter what the situation is...... - Positive reinforcement works best. There's no need to every tap or hit your dog. By helping him understand the "Good Boy" and "No" trigger commands, you'll make the training process a whole lot easier.
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