Sunday, October 28, 2012

Dog Health Questions: My dog gets to excited / violent with fetch / tug a war ... what do I do?

I have a two year old Pom mix. i got him off of Craigslist in January 2008. His furr was matted, he was covered in ticks, had no training, and marked alot. I got him a cage, enrolled him in dog training class. We just complete the basic one at petco. Well he never played with anything until recently and that is whrere the problem is...

We will throw the toy he sometimes just runs by it then circles the living room as fast as he can.

Recently though he will get the toy and bring it back and the second I touch it he starts growling, jerking his head around. It sounds really violent, but I think he is still playing. Well once were done playing with the toy he starts jumping and snapping at my hands. This is really weird since he is a very sweet and friendly dog.

When we first got him he was possessive of food, but with thrainers help we got over that.

Im afraid he is now possessive with the toy, or he is just playing to hard.

How do I get him to behave?

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I just want to add a few things from what other have said...

You can play tug a war with a dog, the issue with this type of play is in certain breeds and behaviours it should be avoided b/c they become aggressive with the play and even dominant.

I have a two year old dog that we have successfully be able to play tug a war with. He understands when we have had enough and he is not aggressive or dominant with anything. Tug of war to him is just a fun game to play and nothing more. Personality can play a big role in determining if tug o war is a good idea or a bad idea with your dog

Growling can be normal play behaviour. But the snipping afterwards is not. I'm not sure if its possessive. I think seeing a trainer or a behaviourist is in your best interest, they will be able to analyze the context and determine if it is possessive behaviour. And be able to give you proper pointers on how to resolve the issue.

I agree with what some have wrote about the ignoring and even walking away. Dogs learn very well when you ignore behaviour you don't want and then rewards them for doing what you want. If you choose to ignore the bad behaviour you need to also reward the good, without doing both you can confuse your dog.

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  • He is probably toy possessive. Most small dogs are. He probably needs some more training. At home you can work with him by playing with him and when these habits come out tell him no, take the toy away and stop. If he keeps snapping at your hands ignore him until he calms down. If this doesn't work you probably need some one on one training.

  • As soon as he starts growling or biting, you get up and walk away. Every single time. He'll soon learn that biting/growling means no more playtime.

    But remember, you have to be ruthless about it. You can't let him ONCE think he'll get away with that behavior and you'll tolerate it.

    Good for you for rescuing, and good luck!

  • Take the toy away and tell him NO!
    Ignore him for a few minutes and try again.
    Over time he will realize, he is most likely possessive
    due to some trauma in his earlier life and also trying to show dominance BUT you have the be the alpha and show him whose boss.

    Good luck!

  • well you need to teach him a leave it command and then ensure that you choose when to play and when to stop!! My terrier goes crazy at tug of war - but he will stop when I show two flat palms to face him and say "finish"

  • Any time he steps out of line drop the toy and ignore him for awhile. Once he's calmed down you can try again.
    It's a lot easier than it sounds, but if you're diligent he'll get the message.

  • this takes time and patience so he likes to play and he has been abused he is just playing and he wants to play some more just keep up with the dog training

  • Put him in time out.

  • When your dog starts becoming aggressive when you play, you need to say no and immediately stop playing with him. It will take several tries before a dog can associate that his aggressiveness is bad. Same goes for food. Do not feed your dog when he is in his aggressive state. If he gets away with these behaviors, you're telling him that he is the pack leader. You cannot let him establish dominance over you, which is exactly what he is doing.

  • In the trainning classes I went to they said never to play tug of war with a dog, because it is a game of dominance to to dog If they "win" the toy then they are the Leader/stronger boss/ Especially if your dog had a food aggression problem. What I would do is take all the toys away then get one out and give it to the dog as long as he is following the rules, trade the toy for a treat(food) instead of trying to take it from him, put the toy away when problems with the dogs attitude some up, eventually after the dog learns that he gets a treat when he willingly gives up the toy they he will give it up to u. My rottweiler had food aggression too, my boyfriend was o.k with it for some reason, when I moved in the first time the huge dog growled at me over the food he was only given food feed to him right out of my hand( I don't recomend this but I did it for two month and he learned now I can do whatever I want to his food and he feel secure that I'm not going to take it away no way was i gonna let a rottweiler that I live with growl at me for any reason LOL just scary)

  • If he won't let go of the toy, make him "Sit" and bribe him with a small piece of food. He'll have to drop it to get the food. But say a command like "Drop it" before you give him to food. Whenever you say "Drop it" he will think he's going to be fed and want to give the toy back. When he runs in circles (mine does this too): Throw the toy, and shake a rattle or something to get his attention and call him with "Come". Then make him sit and do what I mentioned above. Don't give him a piece of food everytime because he won't do it when you don't have food. Every other time or every three times you play, because then he will learn to be curious and see if you have a treat or not. Most of all don't do this on a daily basis. He might get bored and start to ignore you.
    Hope this works!

  • You never play any games with a dog that involve competition.

    If he brings you a toy and then does anything but drop it, stand up and walk away. Do not fight him for it.

    Work with a trainer ASAP on teaching him the "drop it" command. Every time you want to play fetch, it should consist of you throwing the toy, him bringing it back, and you ordering him to drop it, then rewarding him. When the game is over, YOU keep the toy- NOT him. And never ever play any sort of chase, tug of war, etc.

  • When play is "done" have firm rules. Work on a "that'll do" or "enough" or "no play". Don't allow your hands to be near him when play is finished. Be standing. Let go of the toy, say "that'll do" or whatever key word you want to equal that you're done. After you've released the toy, used your word(s), walk away. Turn your back. If he's calm, or even still into playing, but not showing such enthusasism, you can restart play as a reward! Be like "okay, let's play!" and then "that'll do", and walk away... repeat... "okay, let's play!" "that'll do", repeat! Sounds like he just thinks this play is so much fun, and so great! And obviously he wasn't used to so much affection and positive interaction. Give it a go, see how it works!

  • Sorry to say it but I suggest finding a private, positive trainer instead of the big box trainers. www.ccpdt.org is a good start.

    Tug toys should be put away unless you bring them out and initiate play. AS soon as he shows you a behavior you do not want, take the toy and put it away and crate him for a few minutes as a time out.

    By ending the game when he does something you don't want it will teach him to do those things less and less. Playing tug is a fun game but it can increase toy possession if you allow it to get out of hand and allow him to continue to progress.

    I will say that my male pit bull has been very growly since a puppy when he plays tug with me or with our other pit bull. It is only play though. He has been trained extensively and is not aggressive at all, he's just very vocal when playing. Some dogs are but you should know the difference in play growling and a serious warning growl. A serious growl should not be tolerated in play.

    http://www.diamondsintheruff.com/tugowar…

    I also suggest training a "drop it" cue and a "leave it" cue.

  • put it down

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