Wednesday, November 2, 2011

Dog Health Questions: Dominance dog training?

I've been watching Greatest American Dog since the beginning and it just ended tonight. Something I don't understand though is that Victoria Stilwell says that JD uses dominance dog training with Galaxy. She claimed they were medieval methods.

What exactly is this type of dog training and why is it looked down upon?

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What she means is he sort of 'threatens' galaxy. In if you roll the dog on their back and stand over them you are dominating over the other dog. This is effective with a submissive dog but with a dominante dog you will have issues.
Ex: 2 dogs in the wild are fighting. One will overpower (dominate) the other dog. The more submissive dog (loser) will roll over and show its stomach. In that posture he is exposing himself where he could easily be killed or hurt.
When you use dominance training you are trying to overpower the dog. Or be more dominante.
So if you are at home and your dog does something wrong and you roll it on its back and start yelling (like trainers will tell you) you are dominating the other dog wich will scare it half to death. But if you have a dominate dog it could easily come back and hurt you.
So with that explanation it is looked down upon because you are pretty much threatening your dog every time you use the 'dominance training' or rolling the dog on it's back and exposing itself.

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  • It is unnecessarily forceful in the opinion of many.

    http://dogtime.com/dominance-training-di…

  • I believe what they were probably referring to is using dominance asserting behaviors to get the dog to mind. Examples would be alpha rolling (very VERY dangerous if you don't know what you're doing and if it is used outside of very specific circumstances. I've done it once with great results but I would never EVER do it with any other dog I've come across since it is not a great option), and being "rude" to the dog. This works on dominant dogs but should be considered useless on dogs that are not dominant. I own a pit who is very dominant and I have to do things like step over him instead of walking around him, pushing him out of the way, spitting in his food, making him work for any attention, and being all-around more physical with him. That does not at all mean I beat or hit my dog, I just have to do more stiff tapping to get his attention...pushing, shoving, so he understands. I'm talking in dog language. My other pit and my mastiff don't need this as they do not challenge my position as the alpha of the house. Now my original pit minds fantastically and I do not have to be so strict on these dominance displays.

    Anyway, it is looked down upon because our society has gotten very soft (not a bad thing) and likes positive reinforcement training. This means ignore the bad and praise the good. Sometimes, in my opinion, you need to discipline the bad since they sometimes just don't understand.

  • My dog, a shepherd dog is trained by dominance training, but when they are a puppy, the training does not need to be violent at all. It was simply this:
    You sit indian style (criss-cross apple sauce, whatever) and lay the dog on their side on your left side. Make sure their head is underneath your knee, and that's about the position. You basically sit like that and it's best to do this when they're a puppy so that you can control them more easily, because big dogs struggle and learn slower. Puppies, such as mine, after a week understood the point: you stay until I let you up.

    But I will have to agree that they do struggle to get up, that's why I suggest this only if they're small. If your dog is older, I'd see a professional more often about dominance training, or whatever is best for your dog.

    This also helped teach a release word so she knows when she can stop heeling if we're walking or whatever.

    With a shepherd dog it was more than helpful, but with a less dominant breed, it may not be. No matter what, I would recommend seeing a trainer and if your dog seems to be disobeying you in a "teenager" sort of way (just an " I don't feel like it" way) I would see another trainer...That's my take on dominance training.

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