Thursday, February 2, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Bad Breeding? HELP? Dog training/mental problem?

My dog is all the sudden 'turning' on us.
He will be a happy little dog one minute. Then his whole expression changes, and he attacks our other dogs/attacks me. No one has been injured YET. He is currently by himself constantly. And i feel horrible.
He is very depressed about being seperated from us and the other dogs. There are other times where we are playing with him, then all the sudden (his expression completely changes) he lays down and acts scared/upset/worried.
I contacted the breeder about this and she claims it's a 'training' issue. Though i have no idea how it would effect him randomly doing this. And it is not consitent problem. He will go without weeks having any problems, then all the sudden his expression changes, and something happens and he attacks/shuts down. I have tried to set him up (repeating what happened when he all the sudden had this behavior change) and he acts normal. We have been to alot of different trainers/behaviorists to look at our dog, and they do not see anything wrong. He has done this once infront of a trainer, he all the sudden shut down and was acting very scared like something was wrong. She saw his eyes kind of glazed over, his expression changed, and he acted strange. We brought him back a day later, did the same things as the previous day. Nothing happened. She also feels that there is something mentaly wrong. Several trainers have mentioned this.
So as you can see we are looking into things that could be wrong.
Any suggestions to look for? We were wondering if we should take him to a normal vet, or try to take him to a university. How expensive are universities compared to normal vets?
We have looked into a form of epilipsy. If the vet feels that there could possibly be a form of epilipsy is there any way to PROVE it?
The problem is the breeder. She will not allow me to neuter him because she wants something out of this dogs father. He is having these problems, i cannot neuter him without her written consent because of a contract.
So basically i was wondering if anyone has ever had any of these problems before, and how to deal with them, what to look into ect.
OH btw we have had a full panel of bloodwork and thyroid done. everything was normal :)
Thank you. :)

Sorry i forgot to mention the breed!
He is a australian shepherd.
I know now this breeder is horrible. :/ I really do not want to breed him. Like i said, she is blaming me and it's not 'his fault' it's my fault. She does not believe he has these problems, but training problems. :/

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You'd have to contact a lawyer to if you can get out of the contact since there's something wrong with the dog. I'm just not sure why you'd buy a dog from this breeder knowing how horrible she is.

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  • Wonder how she would breed the dog if he were to say "run off". Well, you could have him neutered, doubt that would change his behaviour much. But it's worth a try. Just report to her that the dog ran off, and you no longer have him. Does she live close enough to check on that?

  • It's absolutely a breeding problem. Temperament is just another thing that BYBs ignore. In NO WAY should you allow this dog to be bred. Tell her to take you to court if she wants to enforce that part of the contract, and go prepared with statments from ALL of the behaviorists & trainers you took him to, to back yourself up. I doubt she'll sue

  • The dog sounds mentally unstable to me. Contact the breeder and tell her this, and that is likely genetic and he can not breed. If she refuses to take him back or let you neuter him, get the trainer's statements on the dog and take her to court.

  • Not having him neutered is ridiculous!
    She would have to be prepared to go through the courts to do anything anyways! You have plenty of witnesses to the odd behavior. If she does pursue the issue (which I seriously doubt), no court will rule in her favor.
    Sever all ties with the woman & if she finds out the dog's been neutered then so be it.
    To leave him intact would be irresponsible. That would be my first step & ASAP!

    I really don't know how prices compare regarding university vs. GP vs.specialist.
    Discuss your options with your vet & see what he suggests. Keep him in the loop.
    My gut tells me that the next step should probably be a veterinary neurologist.

    You still need to make sure he's getting plenty of exercise & walks. He also needs to spend time with the family. If you have to muzzle him to feel safe doing so then do it- but only when needed & for short periods. A basket muzzle will allow him to breathe normally & drink water (with practice). http://www.petedge.com/Guardian-Gear-Bas…

    Best wishes & good luck!

    Add:
    You're showing THIS dog?!?

  • Hello. here are 3 tips on how to train dogs. I hope it helps.

    1) When giving your dog a command, avoid using a loud voice. Even if your dog is especially independent/unresponsive, your tone of voice when issuing an obedience command such as "sit","down" or ""stay", should be calm and authoritative, rather than harsh or loud. 2 ) Whenever possible, use your dog's name positively, rather than using it in conjunction to reprimands, warnings or punishment. Your dog should trust that when it hears its name or is called to you, good things happen. His name should always be a word he responds to with enthusiasm, never hesitancy or fear.

    3) Avoid giving your dog combined commands which are incompatible. Combined commands such as "sit-down" can confuse your dog. Using this example, say either "sit" or "down". The command "sit-down" simply doesn't exist.

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