Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Hyper new dog, idiotic mother, dog training shows? Please read.?

Okay so one month ago me, my brother and my parents adopted a 1 year old Chow Chow. She's a Chow and Pomeranian, so she's about half the size of a typical Chow. She was apparently rescued from an abusive situation.

Anyways, when we took her home, she started to develop these mood swings. She gets into these moods where she just runs around, trys to nip at you, and just kind of goes crazy. Since this happened, my mum started watching these dog shows. Mostly that show, The Dog Whisperer. She thinks he's the greatest thing ever, and tried to reenact almost all of his "training techniques". Since watching the show, she thinks that throwing the dog down on the floor whenever it tries to attack will calm it down.

When our dog gets into a hyper mood, my mum first tries to make that aggravating "chht" sound that annoying Cesar dude is known for. When she realizes that is not working what so ever, she continues to flail her arms in the dogs face, poke it's head, put her feet in the dogs face and all it does is make the dog want to rip her face off. I mean, if some idiot was putting their hands and feet in your face, poking you, and all other useless things, you'd bite too!

When I tell her that Cesar is an idiot and all those training techniques are not to be used in home, she doesn't listen. She thinks that just because he got them to work, it's okay to use them and not listen to me. Whenever she tries Cesar's training ways when the dog gets hyper, she gets bit and encourages the dog to do so.

When I'm around the dog while she's hyper, I ignore her. I go about doing what I need to do. The dog just barks a little, runs around, and then licks me and lays at my feet. Ignoring her is what stops the hyperness.

When my mum is around the dog gets hyper. When the dog gets that way, like I said, my mum throws her limbs in her face, and tried to throw her on the ground. The dog then gets pissed and attacks.

I tell my mum to just leave her alone when she's like that and she doesn't listen because Cesar said not to ignore dogs behavior like that.

She's an idiot, and so is that damn cesar milian. How do I get her to stop?

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You might suggest that she watch Victoria Stillwell instead. Ms Stillwell is an excellent trainer and she has a tremendous grasp of dog behavior and how dogs learn. She uses rewards based training methods as we all should.
I share your concerns over the whole "dominance theory" advice seen on popular TV shows. These ideas are based on bad science and incorrect assumptions about wolf behavior. Unfortunately they live on.
"It's Me or The Dog" is the show I'm talking about and Victoria has a web site too. I'll link to that and something about the problems associated with dominance theory for your mom to read.
Good luck.

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  • Given your mouth and your snotty attitude, your mother is, apparently, not a good trainer.

    Find someone who is.

  • I guess you and your mom are not really listening to what Cesear says. He talks about exercise. So, instead of throwing the poor dog down ont he ground to "dominate" him, put a dang leash on him, get him out and give him some real exercise.

    Since your a kid, how about putting on your rollerblades and taking him for a good run. Be useful, instead of just complaining.

  • Nice name...new account...and an "abused" dog, as always. First, dogs live here and now, unless you have proof of it being abused, it never happened and treating it as it has only makes it worse.
    Second, forget CM and his shows, look up and find a Koehler trainer in your area and then follow that person's advice to the letter. You will have a much better dog and your mom will be happy.
    Hope I helped.

  • wow. I liked Cesar Millan, but if he said that, I agree with u. he's an IDIOT. I now hate him. Why would somebody do that? I think YOUR doing the right thing ignoring her. I'm very sorry, but I can't help u with the problem as I am sometimes in the same situation with my mum.

  • Irrespective of whether you think Cesar Millan is a genius, the Antichrist or anything in between, it's a TV SHOW which always starts with the warning "don't try this at home" or words to that effect.

    Ask your mother if she recommends you follow the fashion and dating advice given in "Jersey Shore".

    BTW, anyone who thinks Victoria Stilwell is a competent dog trainer is sadly deluded.

    @Ms Manners: Kudos!

  • Well when the dog starts to get hyper get chain and throw it on the ground near the dogs hind legs. This distracts the dog and gets it to pay attention to the chain and then forgets about being hyper. Reward her when she doesn't start acting hyper again. Hope this helps

  • Sadly you aren't going to be able to tell your mother anything. She is your mother. She wiped your nose and changed your diaper. What you can do is to find a good obedience class and enroll her and her dog. If you have a bit of money you can hire a good trainer to work privately with her. Find a balanced trainer who uses positive techniques with consequences.Your mother is more likely to listen to an expert more then her child.

    I'm with you. I'm not a fan of the Dog Training TV shows. No dog's problem can be cured in 60 minutes. Many of the techniques shown can be very dangerous for to dog and the owner.

  • Cesar Milan's techniques should only be used for an aggressive, dangerous dog, in my opinion. Try to get your mom to watch It's Me or the Dog on Animal Planet, because that shows helpful non-aggressive ways to curb a dog's behavior, and is what I've used to train all my dogs.

    Giving your dog attention, positive or negative, while she is in that state, is a reward. She may be feeling bored, so she's saying, "I wonder if this will work...", and it is with your mother. If she absolutely insists about being pro-active with this, try noise aversions. Go to a place the dog can't see you and bang a pot with a large spoon as loud as you can. If this makes the dog pause, even for a second, reward her. Positive enforcement works better than negative any day. If you tell a kid "You better do this, because I'm your leader" or "If you do this for me we can go play!" which is going to work? Remember, a dog's mindset is perpetually stuck in that of a human toddler, so try to think like that during training an play time.

    Chows can be really great dogs if trained right, but with wrong guidance they can be dangerous. Hopefully you can get through to your mom. Good luck!

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