Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Dog Health Questions: I didnt agree with the dog training technique?↲?

today i took my dog to a trainning class , where they also give private training. Now i have a 9m husky, that likes to bark at people and sometimes dogs. Well today the man introduced a prong collar over my halti. I didnt like the way it looked or what iv herd about prongs. So he put two chains -prongs- on my dog with a muzzle and was pulling him so hard that he cried twice. Than he was talking about that its not mean because i need to be leader because the dog knows weakness, and then hes talking about shock collars. All these things im against, he also had me heel with my dog, which i thought he needed to learn. But he had a long leash on him in the back of me with another one i held, so everytime he would be out of place. He would yank him hard then my dog cried. I dont know what to do because the whole time my dog was scared he didnt look happy , he didnt even get excited when i talk to him in a high pitched voice.

What do you guys think, should i go again?

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If you don't agree with the trainer's methods, then you shouldn't go back. The point of going is to learn how to work with your dog, and to practice what you've learned at home. If you don't agree with the methods, then you won't want to use them at home. That defeats the purpose of going. I understand how you feel, because I took one of my dogs to an advanced obedience class and it wasn't the methods I disagreed with, it was the attitude of the trainer. She had certain owners and breeds that she favored over everybody else and their dogs. After one particularly rude class, I never went back. I actually saw her in a pet store later, and she remembered my dog and asked why we dropped out. I told her exactly why. Your trainer doesn't seem to know any methods besides using force on a dog, and I'd never subject my dog to such brutal handling. Please, don't go back, for the sake of your dog.

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  • I would say no. The way you put it makes it sound as though this way of training is hurting your dog, and that will do more harm than good. Besides, you can't really train your dog if you don't agree with the method this trainer is using. Find another trainer whose methods you fully agree with and you're bound to get better results.

  • I'm not against doing what it takes, including chokers, prongs and shock. But that guy was an idiot for jumping directly to a prong collar.
    If you start out as rough as you can you have nowhere else to go if the dog just wants to test the waters. Or if the dog is "soft" you end up shutting the dog down.

    Let this be a lesson to you, never pay a trainer without being allowed to sit in on a few sessions first.

  • Shock, choke and prong collars CAN be very effective, humane training devices when used properly, but this moron sounds like his technique is simply to dominate the dog into submissiveness. As his owner, it's up to you to decide which training methods you're comfortable with, and find a trainer who will use methods you don't object to

  • I don't believe in prong collars. I think that trainer did not know what he is doing. Try to play with your dog for a while. Also, get a new trainer. I trained my dogs in normal flat nylon collars and I only use choke chains for shows, and I do not pull on them. There are trainers out there that are gentle and are good. I hope you find a good trainer for you and your dog.

  • There are a number of ways to show the dog that you are the "leader" other than causing the animal pain. You should certainly find a new trainer. I would also file a report with the BBB in your area and also file a police report - this is abuse and depending on the laws in your area may be cruelty.

  • Most dog trainers are against the prong collars, find a new trainer

  • Not only should you never go back, you should report this jerk to the local humane society.

  • NO you should not go again but should try and find a trainer who will work with you.Shock collars are best used by caring professionals who know the proper use.They are effective but must be used with much care and education. You do not put a prong collar over a dogs muzzle-ever. The use of the second line on your dog was because the trainer did not trust you to yank hard enough. When you want your dog to heel and he gets ahead it is common practice to yank them back to where you want them but it should only be done with enough force to get there attention and is not meant to actually make the dog call out in pain.That is just wrong. Your dog went through a lot today and it may have been the first time anyone was ever that rough with him so he may seem a little put out.What I suggest is that tomorrow you try to take him out for a walk right away and when he pulls you yank him back to remind him where you want him to be.Maybe if you do it NOW, after he has been mis handled he will respond to you.NO Prong collars

  • Finding a dog trainer that you and your dog BOTH feel comfortable with is very important. Some people agree with prong collars and choke collars and that's fine. The rule applies for them, too. Find a trainer that feels "right". If you ever feel uncomfortable, or second guess the trainer, or disagree with something s/he is telling you to do, or (and especially!) feel your dog is being rushed... dump the trainer. You have no obligation to the trainer. Next time, I recommend watching the trainer before hand if at all possible. Some will be more than willing to let you sit and watch a session.

  • Don't take your dog there again. DO go back to get most of your money refunded, if you paid in advance.

    Have a look at the KIKOPUP videos on youtube. These are fun, easy, instructive videos on clicker training that show you that you can have a well behaved dog that enjoys being trained, is very obedient, and got that way without ever being hurt. go to www.clickertraining.com and click the link that says Find a Trainer. Clickertraining.com also has books and DVDs (plus clickers) if you'd like to do it yourself. I recommend starting out with a teacher before you go solo.

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