Wouldn't it be nice if we had a chain collar on a dog that did the job without the leash? so that we didn't have to have this long leash extending across this large expanse of a lawn/park? not necessarily to show the dog "where" to go, but more to gain the dogs attention? to teach the dog that there is a consequence for behaving poorly?
I know by now you are probably thinking "oh god, here we go with the electric color again!" but that's not the case, actually, quite the opposite!
What if someone built a color that fit around the dogs neck, and could be adjusted to the proper size, and, when the trainer pushed a button, the color would retract and release! just like a properly used chain color! The person doing the training could even adjust the pull of the color to ensure that that it has just the right pull (not too hard, not too soft) depending on his/her dog! and the colors could be maid for specific breeds! (like one designed for pugs, wouldn't be used on labs). and there was a maximum pull.
this wouldn't work for teaching the commands, but it would be great for re-enforcing the commands! that way, the dog would see it as a natural consequence of not obeying a command!
okay, so I posted this here for two reasons.
#1. I would like to here any thoughts on this idea (pro's and cons, other ideas, etc)
#2. if anyone with the money and resources to make this happens sees this idea, I would LOVE to see it carried through, I don't want the money for it, I would just love to see it and have one for myself!
also, something else to think about is that the color could retract from both sides, just like a pinch/prong color, and it could even be maid to simulate a prong in certain sizes.
okay, just in case
legit
what kind of color do you use on your own dogs?
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One flaw I can see, is that any sort of mechanical device that was strong enough to 'retract and release" the collar material, would have to be encased in a bulky casing. Along with the battery- which would also have to be strong enough to power the mechanical device & keep a charge long enough to last for a whole training session.
Electronic collars have a bulky enough case on them that houses the electronics and battery. I would imagine in order to house a pulley big enough to repeatedly retract a length of nylon or chain, and remain adjustable....it would have to be at least double, if not triple the size of an e-collar housing.
There's also the issue of the collar not staying in place, high on the neck where collar corrections are most effective. With a bulky housing it's not likely the collar will stay in one place.
It is an interesting idea- and I'm sure if you could find a way to make it work, you'd find a market for it.
In my opinion, a traditional E-collar in the hands of a COMPETENT trainer are no more "cruel" than any other collar. A flat buckle collar can be cruel if it is used to abuse a dog.
People who don't know how to use an E-collar properly (knowing the appropriate stim level is important and timing is everything)....don't need to be using ANY sort of remote training device on their dog IMO.
That being said, most casual types of "household" training can be completed using traditional methods. Hunting dog trainers & K9 trainers are the primary serious users of e-collars....remote training devices probably shouldn't be marketed to the average dog owner :)
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- The market is already full. Electric collars have proven themselves to be far superior than anything else when it comes to remote corrections.
- The glaring flaw I see with the collar is that what if it malfunctioned and didn't release, and then was choking your dog?
- It's a logical idea, but dogs can already be redirected remotely by electric collars.
Problems I envisage include the chain collar getting caught on something if the dog ran away. Not so bad if it's a martingale design as these only pull up so far as the big D Rings. Then there would be things like irresposible owners using it and maybe not even keeping an eye on the batteries.
But the worst thing I see here (as with any remote) is that there is no physical restraint should the dog decide not to redirect as the owner wishes, so the dog can run off into trouble.
Essentially you'd need an 'already-trained' dog, and if you have that then I don't see the advantage over e-collars or maybe even a dog whistle. So unless it was much smaller than an e-collar I don't think you'd have anyone wanting to invest in it.
Legit: Current collar is a cotton fabric Martingale.
http://www.pbase.com/johnfr/image/111451… - Sounds dangerous... training collars should be used in very controlled situations only as they can malfunction and not release. Other corrections can and should be used, few trainers use any kind of remote training device (possible exception: some bird dog trainers) and I don't think the market would take to it. One of the pros of a regular training collar is that it is automatic, the dog can choose to end the pressure by no longer pulling while the device you suggest could only give a "pop" and nothing else.
- In my opinion that would be a lazy way to "correct" a dog. A prong collar and instructions on how to use it is all a person needs.
Legit: I'm not entirely sure what you mean by color? Do you mean collar? If, so, he has a leather one.
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