Yes, I was using the choke collar correctly. I have attended and participated in dog training before and have had my St. Bernard win 1st place Obedience in 4-H. This is also not the first Rottie I have had, but the first dog I have had that acted this way. Any help or suggestions is greatly appreciated.
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Choke collars are actually considered to be an "old school" training method and aren't used as much any more. Mostly because if the correction isn't given correctly then the dog can be injured. If the dog continues to pull then the choker will cinch on the neck, preventing corrections and effectively choking the dog.
Prong collars are wider, and the pinching effects mimiks a mother dogs bite. They don't hurt the dog at all and are much more effective at stopping the dog from lunging or pulling than a simple choke collar. The possibility of a prong actually puncturing the dogs neck is slim as long as you use the collar correctly.
A few links for you to read:
http://www.8pawsup.com/articles/training…
http://www.i-love-dogs.com/dogsarticles/…
http://www.doganswers.com/collars.htm
Add - Of course, there is no substitute for proper obedience training. These collars are only tools - you take them off and the dog is likely to revert back to old habits unless he/she is properly trained.
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- try a prong collar instead
- it very well might be an territory or dominance issue. It could also be he fears the choke collar. Try training him to heal and not pull on you. That's the only time i have considered using the choke lead. When they insist on tugging and pulling you all over. If he/she doesn't do that. Than no worries.
good luck! - choke collars are able to choke dogs, but all they do when used properly is tighten on the dog's throat when they pull on you or you pull on the leash. your best bed would be to bring her to an obedience class. (don't leave the collar on without supervision because they can be dangerous! always take if off after the walk and leave a regular leather collar on her)
- generally with dominance they do not display that kind of behavior when walking. i personally have never heard of a dog actually choking themselves, i would imagine it could happen if the chain gets stuck tightened the whole way, but not with human supervision. if you are worried about it then just stick to the halti until you can get her walking with you properly. then if you want you can switch to the choke just for correction.
- The trainer with the rescue I foster for does not use choke collars at all. He says the collar can built up scar tissue around a dog's neck and you have to use increasing force for the collar to be effective. He advices us to use a prong collar. I use one on my dog and don't have to use it to correct her anymore. She understand she has to obey when the collar is in place.
- NO! I think those things should be outlawed. Its called a choke chain for a reason, ofcourse it is going to choke the animal. Throw that thing in the trash..
- g'day
a family member of mine has cattle dogs, and used the choke chain incorrectly, they used it as a full time collar... long story short, their neighbour rang them at work and said get here quick, the dog was frothing at the mouth and its eyes were bulgy and blood-shot. - he's ok now though. poor little thing.
i have 2 cattle dogs myself and i used the choke chain, but it didnt seem to help much just made the dogs jump at me and made them gasp for breath... not so helpful.
now i use a doggy car harness, and halti when walking them. I also have a ultra-sonic dog whistle, so whenever they try and jump up, etc, have it ready, give it a small blow and it emits an unpleasant sound (for dogs) that will confuse the dog. after a while, they stopped jumping.
it worked for me, i hope this helps.
cheers
ps -
this is similar to the doggy car harness i have, but i bought it from 'Big W' - much cheaper
http://www.doggypartyplan.com.au/Travell…
This is the halti i use (again, cheaper at big retail stores)
http://www.itsadogshop.com/prod376.htm
and, this is the Ultrasonic Dog Whistle
http://www.amazon.com/Dogit-Ultrasonic-T… - It isn't a 'choke' collar, it is a chain training collar and should only be used on a dog when you are training it. All dogs are different so your past experience means little as it was pretty limited - you didn't really learn a lot, sorry but just the way it is since you don't have the experience to know how to properly use a chain training collar and have some opposition to using a prong training collar appropriately. Very few people actually are terribly knowledgeable regarding the proper use of either and you will likely need to find a good training class to help teach you to better train your dog. The head halter or harness type collars don't train anything except to ignore you.
Yes, if left on or allowed to be used improperly, a chain training collar can indeed choke a dog. Please learn to properly use one where it doesn't. The collar should never be tight, ever - the clip of the leash should always hang down - if these things are being done, there is no way to choke.
add: ANY collar/harness/halter can be abusive if improperly used. Chain training collars are no more 'old school' than are leashes - it has just become fad for people who don't know how to properly train a dog to go to a prong to make themselves feel better and to, usually incorrectly, utilize them to gain some sort of pseudo-control. Both can be abusive and both can do harm. I have pulled prongs out of the trachea of dogs... I have seen dogs get collapsed trachea from buckle collars and suffer cervical damage from halter type collars. Any and all training tools can and are often misused. And conversely any and all training tools can be PROPERLY utilized and be very helpful and successful. I utilize prongs for particular needs just as I utilize chain training collars for particular needs. I also use buckle collars for particular needs. They are all tools and are just aids to help a trainer achieve their desired responses. Just because someone who doesn't know what they are doing uses a wrench to screw up a car doesn't make the WRENCH a bad tool! haha
add: Well, not sure I agree with the trainers or your perspective about 'listening to another female' (your dog isn't stupid enough to think of you as another dog dear) but it is good you are seeking assistance and considering options. Hopefully you will locate a trainer that actually knows about dogs (clue: scratches and bruises do not an 'attack' make - the first thing an attacking dog would do is bite and you would know right off the bat you were attacked -- this was more likely fear based loss of control - panic reaction - lucky she didn't pee all over in her panic) and get some good input.
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