This might just be my opinion, but those are TV shows. They are cut and edited and the family that they end up showing is probably chosen from amongst 1000 other families with problem dogs. Its all nice and sweet how they fix a major problem in 30 minutes, but c'mon now!
I'm irritated when someone posts a dog behavior question and he/she is referred to a TV show that will magically solve all their problems.
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Pure laziness - people see it as a "quick fix" - they dont realise that they need to put the effort and training in themselves. Its a whole lot easier, and more enjoyable, to sit and watch a TV programme instead. Hey I just thought, if you can get your dog to watch it with you - problem solved!!
I hate seeing questions "Where do I write to Cesar to get him to come and see my dog?" - why not look for a trainer ALREADY in your area? But suggest that and you get "but he's the best, I want him". Im sorry, I thought you wanted your dog problems fixed, not a spot on TV?!!
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- The only thing I will say in favor of Cesar Milan is that he always says, he TRAINS people. Now, that is an accurate statement. As you said, much of what he does is basic dog training and obedience. The owners of many of these problem dogs are CLUELESS! Like the dog that continually barks until the owner picks it up - and the owner hasn't a clue why the dog continues to bark!
Not all, but most of the behavior problems on these shows can be eliminated with some very basic obedience commands. Problem is, the owners haven't done their homework. They sit there and watch the pets misbehave, all the while wringing their hands saying, "Oh what can I do."
But Cesar and Victoria are making a VERY comfortable living so I guess they're doing something right. - As far as CM is concerned I think a lot are looking for a quick fix and its easier to watch the chump on tv than pick up a great book by Ian Dunbar for instance.
CM and VS base their training on old fashioned dominance theories that even those who first wrote them now admit they were flawed anyway, they were based on captive wolves, so neither dogs nor how animals behave in the wild!
http://www.4pawsu.com/dogpsychology.htm
they simple work by making a dog completely shut down until it is so fearful it wont show any behaviour at all.
Oh and I know I'll get thumbs down but please do read the link. - Yes, I totally agree. Just like with EVERY other reality tv show, it's all been edited, so it's very hard to form a real opinion on the training methods. I don't mind some of the techniques that Victoria and Caesar use, but I would never base all of my dogs' training off of one person. I adapt to what works for each of my dogs.
- Amen!
Well, we all have one of Paris Hilton's dogs, so why not have Paris Hilton's dog trainers? This country is getting way too lazy for words, and rather gullible as well.
And don't even get me started on reality shows. I have seen nothing more stupid in all my life. - I think that for general obedience, they do help the average dog owner. Like sit, place, etc.
The issue is that people believe that they can use the same techniques for aggression - and that is dangerous. - People also believe that the contestants on American Idol are the best singers in the world.
There's nothing new under the sun here.
At least those programs show people that there are alternatives to letting their pets continue to misbehave. - Good one! They do it because they are too lazy to get off the couch. I refer to them as "keyboard vets" they have been licensed by Directv and Microsoft.
- I don't like victoria but i like Caesar.... I just like him more, yes it is a reality show but a lot of the tips do actually help!
- Because whatever they do or say does work.
- Im bored with it now.......... the shows and the arguments over them.
- Go to SCHOOL and find out, that's where i am
- because the show gives people tips on how to control your dog
- Victoria's show isn't REALLY meant to be taken seriously.....is it? I thought it was a skit from Saturday Night Live.
- I don't know anything about V.S, I don't watch her show. I do watch the Dog Whisperer. I was lucky to grow up on a farm and even luckier that our family passed on to us children their knowledge of animals. Our parents put animals first and their care and behavior issues. There are many kids who were raised with pets, but the mother or father did all the care for the pet and didn't pass on the knowledge to the children. There are some people who never had a pet and don't realize all the drama that goes with caring and training them. The benefit of a show like Dog Whisperer is that it shows people how to care and sometimes train their dog. Sometimes you can't just read a book, you need someone to show you how it is done. Just like some people can't read a cook book and cook, they need Martha Stewart to show them what an egg wash is. I don't agree with everything the Dog Whisperer does, and I think in some cases, he is the only one that can do what he does, but the overall benefit for the general public is still great. I have certainly learned some things watching his show, but mostly I hear him echo things my mother told me as a child. I wish he would do a show on how to train your nasty neighbors dog. ha ha
- I can see the appeal for an owner with a bratty untrained dog to thrown up their hands & wait for Victoria or Ceasar to magically turn their spoiled untrained monster into an angel that behaves in a socially acceptable manner.
Not gonna happen!
An experienced dog trainer can work with the owner & explain what needs to be done to control/correct the behavior but if the owners do not invest the time on a day in day out basis to train the dog, nothing will magically happen. - I don't even know who this Victoria S person is lol. Now I'm going to have to google her!
As far as Caesar goes - I don't hate him. I agree that a lot is editted out and there is no way you're going to fix a dog in 30 minutes. But as Painted Pony mentioned, I also like that he says he "trains people" as well. To me, that's where a lot of dog training blunders happen - because the people don't quite understand how to train their dog.
He's a good role model in the sense of being a "strong pack leader"...it gives you an example to help fix yourself!
Nothing is worse than that balding guy from that show "At the end of my Leash"...omg that guy is mentally challenged. He wanted to show what it would be like to try and stop a big dog when it's not listening so he tied himself with a leash to the back of a minivan and had the minivan drag him around - was there really a point to that? lol
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