Dog Health Questions: Are police dogs trained to defend them and their handler against other dogs?

Title says it all, like if a police dog is running through yards finding a suspect, is it trained to take on a dog in it's backyard?

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The absolute #1 purpose of a police K9 is to defend the handler. Now that being said, all of our dogs are not dog aggressive meaning they won't attack another dog. In fact, if at all possible we won't let them engage in a dog fight because of the possibility of them being injured. I would gladly take a bite from another dog if it means my K9 will remain unharmed. He protects me, but I also have to protect him. If a police K9 was actively engaging a suspect and the handler was attacked in the yard by another dog would the K9 "come to the rescue"? Maybe, maybe not. I've been in competitions where the K9 is engaging a suspect and another suspect attacks the handler. Most of the dogs released on command to come to the handler's aid, but some didn't and stayed engaged with the first suspect. Now me personally, I wouldn't want my K9 to engage in a dogfight to protect me. Not only because of injury, but also because I don't want him to become a dog fighter. We have a saying in our unit that "dog fighting breeds dog fighting" If I let him do it once, he might be prone to do it again, and that's not good. That would give me a problem that would take a long time to fix. We never conduct searches alone, so it would be the responsibility of my cover officer to deal with any dogs that are in the yards that we're searching.

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• K-9's are more human than you think
  
  Yes they will defend themselves and their handler (and most likely win) against another dog.
  
  Some K-9's are more aggressive than others and will ignore another dog just to get the assailant however, most will stop the immediate threat first. By the way, chances are likely that they will continue pursuit after a brawl.
  
  When I was doing K-9 security, I ran into a close encounter where another dog growled at me but left once he saw me step out AND let my dog out of the vehicle.
  
  Hope this helps.


• It is trained to attack anything that will harm the cop, but the cop can command it to attack the dog so he can a suspect, or he can command it to get the suspect, depending on the situation

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Dog Health Questions: Question @ putting a dog down..........?

We have a 2-year old, fixed, male full-bred pit bull. We got from a friend when he was 6 months old. The former owner and the dog have an avid hatred for each other, so I am unsure of his history.

He has shown aggressive tendnencies in the past, but seems to be getting much worse. He has not bitten anyone, but he has jumped into the face of 2 men and head-butted them.

He is starting unprovoked fights with our other dogs. (the pit bull is a house dog, the other dogs are hunting dogs in kennels in the back yard) He is getting hurt from these fights through the fence, and so are the other dogs - if they choose to fight back.

A month or so ago he growled at our 10-year old son because he grabbed his collar to lead him outside. Nearly everyone we know is afraid of him. He is muzzled in public as he does not like most children and there are 2 I know he would hurt if he got the chance. He got out of our front door and chased one a few weeks ago and luckily I realized he was out and called the dog before he did damage. Although he has not bitten anyone, yet, I am getting more afraid to take a chance with the dog.

I have tried Cesar's methods; gotten him a puppy to play with and drain his energy (she is a mixed breed, calm, likes people/children, etc.). They get along fine and I give the pitbull extra attention to make up for what I spend on the puppy. But he seems to be getting worse and last night jumped into the face of my brother-in-law whom he has known for the last 1 1/2 years.

I've bought, read and tried lots of dog-training books. He is well-trained otherwise (on leash - walks great, does not mark his territory, etc.) but is afraid of car rides for some reason.

We are at our wits end and are concerned for the safety of our child, his friends, our friends and neighbors and neighbor's children. Has anyone been in this difficult situation and how did you handle it? Thank you in advance for taking the time to respond.

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What HORRIFIES me is that people are actually here telling you to watch a goddamned *movie* or call some guy from TV to help you "fix" your dog!!

Unbefreakinlievable!!

You need to contact an honest to god, serious behaviorist/trainer to evaluate this dog. Ask you vet for references. You have every right to be concerned about the safety of your child, and the people in your neighborhood. This dog sounds mentally unstable, and is certainly a liability. Unpredictable, unstable dogs do not need to exist.

ADD: h.dwire, you need to get *your* facts straight...bull terriers (APBTs included) were never "bred to be nanny dogs" - they were working farm dogs, used to kill vermin and control livestock...this eventually led to bull baiting and dog fighting. What the dog has *always* been bred for is to be easily handled by people despite its strength.

The fact that they were good with children (which, I think, is actually attributed SPECIFICALLY to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, not the APBT) was a by-product of stable breeding for other functions.

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• you may think its diffucult now, how will you feel after he bites one of your children in the face? or worse!.I think its time to do the right, humane thing. good luck . you could face charges if he does attack someone. by the way . These dogs were bred and first used in battle and for guarding, but they also served utilitarian purposes, such as farm work. Specifically, these dogs accompanied farmers into the fields to assist with bringing bulls in for breeding, castration, not nannys, though they were used to protect children as well as the entire family.


• Put him down before he bites your child or another.
  
  Ceasar's method is a load of crap, I wouldn't listen to that man if my life depended on it.
  
  Fact is, human aggression.. especially child aggression should not be tolerated. The dog needs to be put down for his own good and for your child and others that visit.
  
  Trust me, i've had to do it myself with my APBT and it hurts bad. But it's a decision that needs to be made before something tragic happens.
  
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  Tucker... that dog can never go to a house where they will not be children around. Kids are everywhere and they are too young to understand not to go up to a dog. That is not a risk anyone should take, there are no childless homes or areas.


• This dog is a HUGE liability.
  
  If you want to keep him you need to hire an actual behaviorist to evaluate him and make recommendations. This can't be done from reading Cesar Milans books.
  
  This dog is not rehome-able because of his aggression. If you find that you can't work with him, the best thing may be to put him down. You need to think of your children. And really what is the dog's quality of life being secluded and muzzled all the time?
  
  ADD: Thanks for the thumb down Carol! But this is a serious situation. If the owner can not control the dog and it's aggression, it needs to be put down. Her children come first. And this dog would be put down if brought to a shelter. An aggressive pit is not going to find a new home.


• If this dog attacks someone, you're liable, how would you feel if this dog actually killed another dog or a child? If you can't work with him, your only option is euthanasia, he's your responsiblilty.


• Do yourself and the rest of the world a favor and either HIRE a professional behaviorist with experience in aggression to help you sort out this dog or euthanize him. Reading books and watching tv is "ok" for the average dog with few or no behavioral problems, but it is NOT adequate for a dog with serious behavioral problems as your dog seems to have.
  
  There is a good possibility that a professional behaviorist who uses positive methods (aggressive/aversive training methods such as many that Cesar Milan uses have been proven in several independent studies to actually INCREASE aggression issues in aggressive dogs) can help you make this dog safer. But it will require dedication and commitment and a LOT of work on your part and you will never be able to "let your guard down" around him (in other words, you are going to have to constantly monitor both the dog and the environment for signs of aggression triggers and stay on top of managing his environment). If you can not or are not willing to do this, then it would be best for all if you had the dog euthanized. Even with professional training, there is still a possibility that the behaviorist may tell you that the best option for this dog is euthanasia.


• unless you are willing to put out the $$$ for a very good certifierd behaver expert (NOT just a pet trainer like Ceser) you need to put him down
  the behavor expert may even have same suggestion - its rare but some dogs are not sane


• Unfortunately if the dog is already doing this and not getting better but is getting worse, then I would have to say that it would be best to put him down. I worked as a vet surgery tech and have seen many cases and when a dog starts showing a bad temperament he will never change for the good. For the safety of you children and others I would put him down. You don't want a lawsuit or even worse, him to kill. It may seem cruel but unfortunately this is the only way especially since you have already tried other things. I am sorry that I have to be the bearer of bad news but it is really for the best. It really isn't even because he is a pit either. I have a friend that has 2 pits and they are wonderful, actually I have even seen this temperament in golden retrievers who are known to be "man's best friend".


• I would say for the safety of my children, I would put him down. This dog was raised with fear and abuse instead of possitive rewards. I dont think you will ever be able to break the dog now. He is acting this way cause as a pup he was abused. You cant blame the dog but blame his first owner. This dog would be better off in doggie heaven.


• First take the dog to the vet for a thorough check up to rule out any underlying medical reason for his aggressive behaviour.
  
  If the dog is healthy, then he may be a genetically unstable poorly bred human-aggressive dog. While it may be possible to control his behaviour & environment you will not be able to change his temperament.
  
  Before deciding whether or not to humanely euthanize the dog, you may want to find a professional dog trainer to assess him & advise you on the best course of action.
  
  Growling at a child is unacceptable behaviour and does need to be addressed.


• You said you've tried "Cesar's methods" but have you tried an actual trainer? One that specializes in aggressive dogs? Personally I'm not a fan of Cesar or his methods and if improperly used (as with all training methods) they can make things much worse. Please get this dog evaluated by a professional before you make the decision to end his life.


• Dangerous dogs require killing.....no matter what breed or lack thereof.
  It is *not* "well-trained" at all.
  Why do people continue to waste oxygen on dangerous animals when there are millions of SANE good dogs out there?


• CAROL: Get your head out your ***. The dog has problems and telling someone with serious problems to go to a guy's website who is a **TV ENTERTAINER** is load of crap. You have to be realistic sometimes, there are some dogs in the world that are just genetically unstable. How can she be doing wrong if she has the balls to come on here and atleast ADMIT there's a problem with the dog ? Sometime's we have to admit there are some dogs that are mentally unstable..STOP **BLAMING** A KID FOR BAD GENETICS!!!!!
  
  As far as im concerned, unless you want to spend thousands of dollars **TRYING** to fix the problem, it's best you put him down. The dog has already shown aggressive tendancies in the past. Keeping him around is only giving him a matter of time before he attacks some person or worse your son. Why take the risks of someone being bitten because you were negligent of keeping him and knowing his aggression could get worse?
  
  I've seen people end up in court rooms with dogs that had aggression issues and continued to harbor the dogs with either love or pretending it wasn't an issue. It doesn't turn out well for the owners of the dog..
  
  EDIT: Aw, You said it yourself. The **PARENTS** of this dog was not HUMAN FRIENDLY!!! The end result.. HUMAN AGGRESSIVE TEMPERMENT DUE TO **BAD** BREEDING PRACTICES!!
  
  Put down the dog. He is mentally stable.. This is exactly what im talking about when I say morons have ruined the breed by **CREATING** ill-bred and unstable freaks that should've put down!!!!


• Carol, you have some serious delusions going on. Living with dogs is not always sunshine and rainbows and you can't always simply train something out of a dog. How dare YOU blame a child you don't even know for the behavior of this dog. If it was the kid's problem, he'd only have a problem with kids - possibly even only THAT kid. He seems to have a problem with just about every human around AND is unpredictable. You go ahead and keep a human aggressive, unpredictable dog alive - let us know how many stitches you end up with.
  
  You ESPECIALLY cannot train something out of a dog using a TV entertainer's methods. Cesar Milan may have some good theories, but most are crap and the ones that ARE good have been touted by trainers long before him. He is NOT AT ALL the be all end all of dog training. A dog that is genetically predisposed (see, we can say that because she admits the parents were that way as well) to human aggression should NOT be allowed to live. It's not fair ot the humans who have to worry about his behavior all the time and, quite frankly, that dog likely is quite miserable and stressed in his life. It would be kinder to humanely euthanize him than to keep him around just because that's a hard decision.
  
  I have nothing against pitties (I love them) and asker, I'm so sorry that you have to make this decision - I know you've already made it and I absolutely support it. You're doing the best thing for your family, friends, neighbors and that dog. The poor guy will be much better off when he's at peace. And when the pain subsides, go find a dog at a shelter who needs love. There are too many wonderful dogs out there for people to have to deal with ones that can't be fixed.


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• You would be committing an egregious wrong if you put down a dog just because YOU don't know how to correct the dog's behavior.
  
  I also strongly suspect your 10-year-old son has something to do with this. I would put forth the opinion that when you are not around, or are not looking - the kid torments the dog.
  
  Your sentence "he growled at our 10-year-old son because he grabbed his collar to lead him outside" told me a great deal.
  
  I urge you, from the bottom of my heart, to go to the Dog Whisperer website and see if you can't actually contact someone in Cesar's organization about this. It is possible they will be willing to help you adopt out this poor creature. As I'm sure you know, Cesar has a soft spot for powerful dogs like Rotties and Pit Bulls.
  
  http://www.cesarmillaninc.com/
  
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  I am HORRIFIED at the people on this site actually telling you to kill that dog.
  
  Don't you DARE murder a dog just because YOU failed.


• I would give him to someone that doesn't have a child. I love dogs...but they are dogs. Kids are our number 1.
  
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  I think that I agree with Mrs N....why take the risk at all?


• Have you enlisted the help of a professional trainer? Or dog boot camp? The dog sounds like he's not too far from biting someone. In which case they more then likely will put him to sleep and you could face a lawsuit or hefty fines. If the dog means a lot to you and your family i've heard some great stories come out of dog boot camps. But i'm sure those are on the pricey side. If you are honestly concerned for the safety of your child i would really consider euthanasia. It's a rotten choice but if the dog will bite a family member, it would bite anyone. Unfortunately i don't think it would be morally right to even try to rehome this dog.
  
  Add: Originally Pitts were bred to fight other dogs in the pit. If one EVER showed human agression the dog would be shot. These dogs are strong and powerful animals. Human agression should not be tolerated. Especially when it's against it's own humans.


• Ok first of all, you do not need to put the dog down. The dog has issues with males. But you can fix that. If the dog is trained otherwise, use that training. As soon as the aggression starts, punish him. Give him a time out in a designated area. Wait for him to calm down, and then let him out. If the aggression starts again, he gets another time out. Every time he is gentle, praise him. This will take a lot of time and patience to get him over this aggression, but it is possible. As for your son, and really any one else that takes the dog out, don't grab at an aggressive dog especially from behind. If the dog cant see you, he doesn't know what you are doing and will be startled. When the dog already has aggressive tendencies you are just asking him to bite you. Another thing to do if you are outside your home and don't have a time out area is to turn your dog away from the person he is being aggressive towards. Get right in the middle of your dog and the person, correct him, and turn him away. Keep him on a leash at all times while outside. Just lead him with the leash away from the problem. Eventually he will learn that the behavior is unacceptable. And always remember not to praise him during the aggressive behavior. Correct him with whatever word you have chosen to use ( no, stop, cut, leave it......) and either walk away with him or take him to the time out area. Do not use any other words than the corrective word. A lot of people will say "its ok, your ok....." to their dog, that is actually reinforcement for them to continue their behavior. Patting or touching the dog in anyway is also reinforcing the negative behavior. Correct him right at the moment he does something wrong.
  
  And a great way to get him over the fear of car rides, is to just let him get in and out of the car without going anywhere. This worked great for my dog, who was terrified of car rides when we rescued him. He had traveled from the south after being abandoned by his owner, to come to the SPCA here in the northeast, and refused to get in my car. I just sat in the driveway and let him get used to the outside of the car, and then opened the door, sat in the car with him, opened the other door and let him get out. It took a few times before I could start the car and drive around for a few minutes and then come back. Eventually he got the idea that car rides didn't have to be bad. He wasn't going to be abandoned and it didn't always end with a trip to the scary vet. Now he loves the car, and tries to jump in it every time I open the door..even if we aren't going anywhere!
  
  Good luck with your training, and if you need more ideas let me know.
  
  add: Actually to the person that posted that pits were breed to fight, get your "facts" straight. They were originally breed to be nannies for children. People later on then started with the dog fights because of their size and strength. These dogs are actually very nurturing and gentle dogs.

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Dog Health Questions: Any dog training proffessionals in ottawa region that come to your home to help train/behavoir of your dog?

I have two minature schauzers and they need help! I mean help they aren't bad dogs just they Jump alot! and i mean alot. And one is always nervous and bites sometimes. We heard things about Bark Busters that was good so we were thinking about them but we'd love to have Cesar Millan here but thats impossible but does anyone know any names of places or people who come to your home and help you with your dogs. The price is nt a major thing we just need help. SO please any names of proffesinals that come to your home or companies.
thank you in advance big points for the best answer!

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I would avoid ANY "franchise" so-called training companies......especially Fart Busters. A 30 second conversation with one of them should be enough to show you they are completely Nuts.

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• You can do a lot of this yourself with time an patience. There are many sites on line that will give you very good information and pointers. Here is one such site: http://www.freedogtrainingarticles.com/P… Your local library will also have dog training books. That is how I trained my two rescue dogs. One of the main things is to make sure you are using an assertive voice not a baby voice. You do not have to be mean and yell but you do have to establish your dominance. Time and lots of patience is key. Be assertive and not whimpy. Remember this is not your "baby" it is your pet. A well trained dog is a happy dog. A well trained dog makes a happy owner.

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Dog Health Questions: The Dog Whisperer?

Why does it seem like everyone here is suddenly promoting Ceaser Millan's training methods?

Millan uses a very old form of dog training- positive punishment. He is giving the dog something it does not like (IE: taping, alpha rolls, etc. etc.).

In all honesty, his methods are not only out of date, but also downright dangerous. I've seen little old ladies trying to give their giant breed dogs an alpha roll because it playfully nipped at the maltese it was playing with. Are you people kidding? The answer to every problem is NOT "your dog is being dominant". The only real pack leader replacement is another dog! YES you can be a part of your dog's pack. YES you can communicate with your dog. But don't fool yourself into thinking that you can give your dog "alpha rolls" every fifteen seconds and expect it to have any self-respect.

What you see on camera and what really happens are two COMPLETELY different things.

So, what method of training do you use?

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The power of TV and celebrity. It's a shame really. Not only are his methods outdated but the whole concept of pack hierarchy was based on studies of captive wolves, which as it turns out do not behave like wild wolves.

I also think that Cesar's technique fit in well with the way westerners think of relationships in general. Someone's on top and someone isn't, someone is the leader and someone is the follower. Not that that isn't true in some cases but to base relationships with an entire species on this foundation means that people see dogs' behaviors as challenges rather than what they most likely are, patterned reactions to a certain set of stimuli or just basic doggie opportunism with no agenda or challenge involved.

So while the guy has good instincts and can handle dogs his training methods and worse, his diagnosis of problems, provide more reasons for people to hurt and scare their dogs. And yes, scaring a dog can change its behavior, so people see that, not the underlying body language that shouts, I'm doing what you want, but I'd rather run and hide! Dogs aren't thinking when they're afraid and so changes in behavior will not likely 'stick' when the pressure is taken off of them.

I have heard that he's making some changes and has actually encourages people to books by trainers like Jean Donaldson and Patricia McConnel, Ian Dunbar, etc.

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• ....Thus, the disclaimer at the bottom of the screen at the beginning of every episode.
  
  I use his method, and have never had better trained dogs (5 of them). My family is EXTREMELY dog-centric and we are very tuned into our animals, and can see that our approach is working. People on walks comment on how well-behaved and happy our dogs look.


• His concept is completely sound.
  His methods are crude.
  It's a TV show for masses.
  IMHO, better than nothing for many dog "owners"


• I have never seen him alpha roll a dog.. He makes them lay on their side til they forget about what they were worked up over.. He gives them a slight tap in the rear w/ his foot to get their attention.. Break their focus on what ever it is that has their attention.
  
  There are many things that he does that are great.. There are things he does that he shouldn't be showing on tv, and making people think that just anyone can do that..
  
  Just like any trainer out there.. there are good things and there are things that not everyone would agree with or not everyone should practice.. He has helped alot of people understand their dogs more.. Just the mere fact that he tells you that DOGS ARE DOGS is a benefit and a value..
  
  He has his place... just like everything else.


• I use Cesar's methods and not only do I rule my 4 dogs my 5 cats do also.


• I agree with the first answer, while I personally have never used alpha rolls, nor do I promote them specifically, Cesar's approach to training is right on the money. You CAN be the leader of your family's pack, and there are different ways to get there, but it definitely creates a more harmonious living situation and more trainable dogs. I don't believe anything he does endangers himself or the dogs, and he DOES say that he doesn't suggest you try any of that stuff at home. He also doesn't ever say that every problem is related to the dog being dominant; just as often the dog is not dominant, but is fearful because nobody else is showing dominance either, and it doesn't know who to follow.
  
  Everybody is always going to have their own take on Cesar, but personally, I think he's a genius, and I'd love to meet him someday.


• I treat them with respect and firmly tell them no when they do something they should not. When they do something good i pet them and give them a treat. After a month or so they start to act in the manner you wish with out and positive or negative reinforcement.


• We watch the Dog Whisperer over here and have some of the dvds too. It has helped us quite a bit. I cant use some of his techniques because they are too harsh for my sensitive big guy but people need to be smart enough to pick and choose methods that seem to suit their dog's needs. A lot of his philosophies have really helped us over here and we do have a beautifully behaved English Mastiff. I think it is more important for dog owners to realize that there is probably not one method that will apply to their dog but many in combination.


• well I like the dog whisperer because I learn alot about different dog breeds. And I like SOME things he says, like to use more exercise to fix any behavioral problems, thats simple and I found it worked with mine..and better than any thing harsh or using drugs to calm the dog down or something.
  I did try that dog roll thing when my puppy was in that puppy biting stage, and it was NOT a good idea definately. She saw that as just more struggling. i think only professional dog trainers should do the puppy roll thing. or in some cases if you have to break up a dog fight?
  One more thing I like about the dog whisperer is he says dogs live in the present, i found that to be true and something helpful to remember.
  But yeah I agree his methods arent for every dog or dog owner, and i like positive reinforcement better.
  
  Whoops one more thing i learned and liked about dog whisperer is watching for clues of bad behavior/fixation and stopping it before something bad happens.
  
  but yeah when i see someone answer a question with Just "watch dog whisperer" thats kind of annoying


• Although his methods may be out of date, they certainly do work. I totally disagree with you on your idea of the only real pack leader replacement is another dog. When you decide to adopt or purchase a pet, you are assuming responsibility on that animal, thus becoming it's caregiver. You are the one that has to train it to listen to you and follow your commands. You provide food for your pet, provide shelter, and water. I believe that in the wild this is what the alpha or pack leader also does. Hence, you are the alpha pack leader as your pet depends on you to provide all his needs. As for the comment on giving your dog "alpha rolls" every 15 secs., this shouldn't be necessary if you have a dog who is well trained, and loyal to you. Everyone has their own opinions of things, and I respect your opinions on Mr. Millan, however, don't try and push your believes off on others.


• While I don't completely agree with some of his methods, being 'top dog' in my house has gotten me out of some pretty sticky situations.
  I have brought dogs into my house (rescues) and put them in their place by standing over them and ignoring them until they came to me for attention.
  I can also back down my dogs by walking up to them and using a certain tone of voice w/o ever touching them.
  One of my dogs, will not roll over on command b/c he is trying to maintain some sort of dignity, but the other does it almost immediately (especially if there is food involved).
  Honestly, I am the pack leader, and I am not afraid to reassert this leadership roll if I have to!


• i agree with u. people here say "call cesar millan he will come and help u" for every training problem. his methods r very outdated. i dont use them. never have never will. i use my own methods of training my dogs. i figure out ways of training my dogs. and if i am having problems i call a trainer IN MY AREA that i can actually contact and talk to about my problems. sure some people think that watching the show is going to help them with their problems but in the end nothing beats a trainer u can go see for urself and meet in person that will actually help u


• I don't use his method for training, since it isn't a training method. I use it to modify behavior and it works if you actually "get" how to do it. I'm not on camera,,but it still works like magic, in almost not time at all. I am able to groom dogs now with no muzzle or fuss, when before they were impossible to give a good smooth haircut, and constantly snapped and bit. I never have to resort to laying them down, and since they don't belong to me, I would never get physical. I only use the 'energy' part, and it is amazing how it works. My personal dogs had no issues with actual training, but now when I go in to feed, I don't have to rush in the gate so they won't rush out,,,and they sit down and wait for me to pour food. I don't really care about the camera parts, or how much money he's making, the fact that it works for me in convincing enough. I don't however believe that everyone can grasp what he's saying. Like maybe you. But for the people who understand, it really is working. To each their own.
  
  As for actual training (sit,stay,heal etc) I use repetition,example and reward with affection . I don't use food,baby talk or treats, nor do I hit and smack or yell.


• I am very fortunate. My dog will wash the car if there is a Milk Bone in it for him!
  
  I have always used the repetitive approach for sit, stay, settle, wait - the basic commands. I have also used this for teaching "get the ball", "Where's your baby", and things like that. Work with them about 10 minutes a day, and after a few days, they know what you want. As soon as they get one command down, add another. Then, be sure you "review" every so often. I have trained many dogs this way, except for one Jack Russell Terrier that trained me!!!!


• I follow Cesar Millan, I respect his experience and intellegence. I also realize what he accomplishes isn't done in the 15 minute TV segment. Exercise, disipline then affection, is not a horrible thing to keep in mind when dealing with an ambitious animal. Too many people say well the yard is fenced in why should I walk the dog? And they forget they are at work all day, while the poor dog is in the crate or kennel. Every dog needs exercise everyday, companionship with the owner while on that walk. Benefit both. Cesar on TV is great, people seeing this will learn more than if no trainer was on TV.


• Just because a method is older does NOT mean that it isn't effective. I watch Dog Whisperer every day and have yet to see him preform an "alpha roll" on any dog. What I have seen is an imitation of what another dog would do and that it does work. There is no "perfect" method that will work for every dog or trainer. The disclaimer is there specifically to prevent untrained misinformed people from attempting to use the method and causing more harm than good. I use an adaptation of his method with my boy and have seen improvements. I have a ton of respect for Cesar Millan because he not only promotes RESPONSIBLE ownership, he also encourages people to let their dog be dogs. IMHO, you should try actually watching instead of surfing the show. As for what method I use, I use my own. I take information that I find useful and/or helpful and mesh them into a program that works for me/my dog.
  
  add: BTW, since I'm seeing many comments that seem to show a lack of understanding as to what an "alpha roll" actually is.... An "alpha roll" is when you forcibly put a dog onto it's back and hold it there by the chest or neck. It is used by a dominant canine as a method of LAST RESORT. Alpha rolling shouldn't be done because your dog has problems, it's useful as a guide for figuring out a puppies dominance/submission levels and for little else. Cesar uses stiffened fingers in a bite pattern to administer a firm but harmless touch. It works to get a dog to lose focus on what it's doing and refocus on you. They are two VERY different things.


• I watched him and took from him some points of training to help me out...I don't follow any one method 100% I do what works for us. I have pinned my rottie down when she was younger, just cradled her to get her to submit to me since she was being pretty darn bad in puppy hood and showing her own stubborn side...she is a very submissive dog now at age 2 maybe that helped maybe it didn't, but I would not ever recommend someone with a large dog trying this out of the blue to make them submit..large dogs are fairly strong so if they feel scared they are likely to react very negatively and someone is going to get hurt!. I have also used the tap the toe into the uptuck of the dog when walking to get her attention when calling her or giving a yank on the leash did nothing, it get's her attention, it's not being rough and she has learned to now listen to a stern no where before she was in crazy hyper mode cause of cars or the horses next door and you couldn't break that concentration without some sort of contact. So I think he has some good ways but then again he is a professional and some one who has no real idea just what they see on tv going to try something drastic with a dog will probably do more harm than good. The whole pack thing is over rated too...some dogs do feel like they are more the boss but I think the whole human/dog pack is more of a novelty people like to use to explain every bad behavior their dog shows. Sorry to ramble on so long..just my thoughts.


• I think people only fucus on the fact that he alpha rolls, and nothing else.
  Yes, his methods are old, but they are sound. He does things other than rolls, and has helped many a person walk their dog. His advice about energy and your dog is great too. Just because you see him roll some dogs on tv doesn't mean that is all he does, i have seen him achieve total submission without even laying a finger on a dog.
  I alpha roll my dogs, frequently, but i also know that that isn't needed for every dog, nor all the time. I have 5 dogs, one gets rolled all the time, another never has to because just giving her the look does it. He never says his physical techniques are right for every dog, and says that if you aren't absolutely sure you can do the roll, to not even try.He mostly promotes calm-assertive leadership, which is right for every dog.


• His methods may be old, but I wouldn't say they are entirely out of date. I don't agree with everything he does, but chances are you will never find any trainer that you do agree with all their methods or ideas. I usually take bits and pieces from several different trainers that I like, and therein lies my only real problem with Cesar Milan - He uses the same method on EVERY dog, regardless of what the problem is.
  The thing I do like about him is he helps the general public understand pack mentality and that you shouldn't baby a dog. I think that right there is invaluable.
  Also, as DP said, I have never actually seen him alpha roll a dog, I have on many occasions seen him roll a dog on their side, which has more of a calming affect rather than the whole "Alpha roll" thing. Rolling them on their side, provided you are not dealing with a dangerous dog or that you know what you are doing, allows the dog to calm down and refocus their attention on something else.
  I happen to disagree with you entirely that a person cannot take over the alpha role. In a dog's mind, their people are their pack, the dominant one will naturally rise to the alpha position, whether it is a dog or a human.
  There are times that I think what he is doing is totally ridiculous, but he does some great things too. Anyone that can have that many dogs under complete control is not a complete idiot and must be doing something right.


• Quote: there's only 1 thing that 2 dog trainers can agree on, and that the other one is wrong.
  
  Every person has an idea about how to train a dog. EVERY person. There is some validity in just about every technique out there. There's validity in positive reinforcement, there's validity in negative reinforcement - it's all about what you are comfortable with as the owner. If you don't buy into a training technique, your dog will totally see through it and it will be ineffective.
  
  Many people comment on his disclaimer stating that makes his methods unsound or bad. I have season 1 and 2 and the National Geographic channel. I watch his shows. Sure, they are edited. Sure there are some things he does that I would never do. But any good trainer - and responsible trainer would tell you not to sinply try these things at home - that if you are having behaviourial issues you should seek out a trainer to guide you in person.
  
  Would you learn to drive simply by watching a video? No - you'd wreck your car. People that simply watch his show and then try and reproduce what he is doing are in for a wake-up call a lot of times - it just won't work as well! You don't have experience and you don't have someone standing there to help when things go wrong. So watch the show -take what you can, use it, leave what you don't like or don't agree with - but most importantly, if you are having issues with your dog that is beyond your level of expertise - find a trainer who suscribes to whatever methods you are comfortable with! :)


• I to don't think i have ever seen him alpha roll a dog..i have seen him tell others not to...on one show it was dogs in the office. some turned their dog over and cesar asked them not to. the only dog he maybe did this to was the jino. that was very aggresive.
  
  I like cesar. there are a few things i learned.and so i don't aggree with..and like everyone said there is no way that i agree with all trainers i have read on or seen on tv. I don't like clicker training. so i don't use it. I use a choke chain on my dogs and for the more extreme i have used a prong. they are not cruel when used right. nor is a tap or a touch. If you have never worked with dogs that get so focused on one thing yelling does nothing but annoy the nieghbors.
  
  he lets a dog be a dog which few people do and yes it is a human problem. and there is a reason why they put that warning at the bottom...he does know what he is talking about be even he gets bit some times.
  
  however for most major problems watch the dog whispher is a horrid answer. when most people can not read a dog. or think something is aggressive when its not.


• I use positive reinforcement training method, we utilize clicker training to mark behaviors we want.
  
  Now, that's not to say that I don't correct my dog, as I most certainly do. In obedience training, it is a gentle correction and all that I really need. In a behavior issue, it is somewhat harsh, but needs to be to get the point across. In herding training, corrections are very harsh. When you have a dog that has her eye on the sheep, sometimes it requires a harsh correction to get them to refocus on you, the handler.
  
  It's funny, because with obedience training, harsh corrections shut my dog down, entirely. She won't work. But with herding, and really harsh corrections, it does not phase her one bit. There is a huge difference between general obedience training and training in an area a dog has a natural instinct for.


• It's one of many points of views, in my opinion, and something to be taken with a grain of salt. I think to take his word as law is drastically oversimplifying, not to mention dangerous.

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Dog Health Questions: Can I have a small dog, like basset or cocker spaniel, be trained to become a drug sniffer?

I do some searches (with search warrant, of course) and never had K-9 in my department. I am interested if I could have toy dogs trained to do the job because they're easy to take to the crime scene and need not much exercise and low-cost maintenance

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In my experience with dogs you can pretty much train them to do anything with some work (from you and the dog). Check with your department they can put you in contact with trainers and groups that specialize in training. The smallest dog I've ever seen trained in narcotics was a cattledog (45 lbs). The dog needs to have the drive though and most small breeds don't have that bred into them. I have also seen some mix breeds in law enforcement so you don't have to have the typical German Shepherd as commonly seen. On the maintenance a dog is a dog, really all breeds have their issues especially the two you named. Both are known to have ear problems as well as other health issues, just look into what you think you want before you get it. And a Terrier of some sort may be better at the job, they tend to have a higher drive. Good luck!!

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• Yes, military trains beagles all the time for this. They use German Shephards because they look scarier and they are also trained to be an attack dog.


• I don't know much about law enforcement dogs, but I do know hounds! A lot of time when people think of hounds they only think of a bloodhound or a coonhound. There are a lot of smaller varieties that have just as strong of a nose! A beagle for instance is ALL nose. They are sniffing machines, and fairly compact. I have dachshunds and they are also all about sniffing and tracking. If you go to the AKC site and look through the hounds, you might see something that would work!


• If nothing else, you should be able to train a Grade A crotchhound.


• Your best bet would be a beagle or small hound type. Bassets aren't the best motivated.


• I think a beagle would be a good choice too. Good luck!


• a basset isnt really a small dog.. they are about 50 -60 pounds.. like a lab with its lugs cut short.
  
  I have seen small dogs like terriers and dachshunds used for sniffing out contraband and drugs. So yes, you can get a small dog trained for drug detection!


• Almost any dog with a good nose, better work ethic, and best likes play can be used as a detector dog. The problem of size becomes one of application 'practicality.'
  
  Tony Ancheta


• Yes you can, I saw a basset hound on my way back from tiawan in the LA airport. A lady walked buy everyone in line and the basset hound was waddling around with her.
  And she had her own vest and everything.


• yes i`ll be right back


• You are a cop?? I don't think so.. A cop would NOT ask on YA answers about drug dogs and training etc.. A cop would have K9 Resources that they would deal with.. They might not have their own K9 Department but they know who does and they would inquire there as to what they would need to do, etc.. NOT HERE...

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Dog Health Questions: Where is the best place to find free tutorials on dog training?

Well I have a black female German Shepard named Bear, she's pretty disobedient, and because of that, no body wants to spend any time with her. She's about a year and half old.
I really feal sorry for her, I mean she gets attention, but not enough.
So I need some tutorails on how to train a dog, and I'm going to try to make her my friend and spend what ever it takes to make her at least a little loyal. :P

Where can I find tutorials on how to train a dog to be loyal?

Thanks,
Dude

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The best place to learn to train is at a training class. There is no better.

However, you could check your local library. There are likely to be some good fee books and even videos there. (I know there are at my library)

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• petsmart.com


• Dogs will normally be loyal to whoever takes care of them and gives them attention.
  
  As for information on training, you might find what you're looking for at the site below.

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Dog Health Questions: A dog training question?

I live in an apartment and have a German Shepherd, that I love. There are several large fields near our complex and I would like to take him off leash to play fetch. How do I teach him not to run away and not go too far away?

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You need to get to an obedience class and learn to train the dog properly. You need to have him 100% on the recall -- the only reason he will be that way is if he WANTS to come to you regardless of what is going on around him -- never take him out and teach him you have no control though ... which is what you are doing right now... take him on a long line and throw the ball and pull him back encouraging him the entire time and make it worth is while when he comes back... do this every time and don't let him run loose or he will learn that he can ignore you when he wants to... it really isn't hard but unless you know how to train then you can really teach him not to come to you... Good luck.

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• Is it fenced off? If not I would suggest to use a long, or retractable lead. Let him wander far away on the lead and then call him to come. Train him little by little until you can completely trust him off the lead. If there're traffic near by I suggest going somewhere far from the traffic. Cars are the main things I worry about. Otherwise if he's obedient then it should be fine.


• Do obedience training, sit, stay, come etc.
  Get a cotton clothes line in the meantime. That will give him 50 feet of romping room. Call him occasionally to come back to you for a very small tasty treat of chicken, bacon etc., something he really loves and really wants to come back for.
  Eventually he will learn, but in the meantime, don't trust him off lead until he is 100 percent trained. Merry Christmas


• Take him to obedience classes. There you/he will learn the recall (the "come" command) and when he's off leash, you will be able to call him back to you.
  
  It is highly debated, but I would personally recommend a compulsive trainer vs a positive one. Compulsion provides fast results that are reliable even with a dog in drive. (I might teach my dog to come to me with treats, but I want to make sure I can correct him if he decides the cat across the street is more interesting than what I have to offer.)
  
  Until then, buy a long line (they sell them at PetSmart) to keep him on when he's out in the field.


• Check out this website for some good training books. Remember that dogs do not generalize very well so a dog that will respond to commands at home may not when they are in a place with lots of distractions, like this field.
  
  www.fearfuldogs.com/books.html
  
  You could check out the games on this site as well, specifically the name game and targeting.Both are great starter exercises for recall.
  
  www.fearfuldogs.com/targeting.html


• You can visit http://www.dogstraining.info .It provide you with the most popular and easiest dog training Guide

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Dog Health Questions: What type of dog business should I have?-read-?

I need some money, so I decided to start my own business but I need help. First idea was to make dog clothes and accessories. I would like to do that but it seems kind of hard to make dog clothes so does anyone have any other ideas? I will not do a dog walking service. Maybe dog training but i don't think so. I am more of a crafty person. Any ideas?

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I have a friend who makes dog clothes

she doesnt make much income off it. There's lots of people who make dog clothes out there, but in this economy people are looking for something cheap and functional.. accessories and dresses just dont cut it.

If you have a wider range of products to offer.. clothes, collars and leashes, treats, toys, etc.. you may do abit better.

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• if you want it to be around animals the making clothes is really good. depending on how old you are you can get into a grommers or get a co-op for a groomers. but a co-op isnt going to give you money. you dont want dog walking so you could try dog sitting... offer to go to peoples houses or the dogs can come to you , only in your neighboor hood. you can whatch the dogs and/or other animals for 12 hours a day or only to go walk them for a half hour or even play with them 4 hours of your day something like that. you said you are crafty why dont you make animal toys!! just make ideas at first like a stuffed mouse, you would be able to stuff stuffing in it. hope this helps the slightist bit.


• CLOTHES? Pathetic. Do something USEFUL. Don't market to the MORONS who think their pwetty wittle doggies are so "naked" and "cold".


• what about dog collars/leashes?
  and if you live ina cold area then dog cloths might not be a bad idea

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Dog Health Questions: Could anyone tell about dog training DVDs?

i really need it.
thanks

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=lsNOX7-l2I0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3uj1IhJmpME
http://youtube.com/watch?v=LDyyGMa3Sc8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XryUAV2atu4

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• I normally use a "frisbie'


• You mean like these?
  http://www.totalretriever.com/
  
  Like these you will find that most of them are very specific in content. So you will need to narrow your search substantially.

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Dog Health Questions: Dog training classes?

I am going to take all your advices and enroll my dog in doggy obedience classes. do any of you live in Miami that may be able to refer me to a trainer? Do you think the group classes will work for her? I know the one-on-ones would be more effective but they are kind of pricey, The group classes are more in my price range. Any suggestions?

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Well i dont live in Miama but i hope this link will give u sufficient knowledge regarding dog training

http://www.reviewlocator.com/reviews/sec…

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• im srry i do not live in miami but i do know that there are doggie training classes at petco


• Have you looked at a PetSmart or anything like that? They are relatively inexpensive compared to private trainers. Just talk to the trainer before putting your money down to be sure that you click with them and are comfortable with the knowledge they have.


• Here is a link to choosing a good dog trainer from the Humane Society.
  http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/dog_ca…
  
  Also, you may want to continue working with your pup on your own after classes.
  Sue Ailsby has an awesome free online training program that teaches you and your dog all the things he needs to be a good community member.
  http://www.dragonflyllama.com/%20DOGS/Le…
  
  I worked Jessie up to level 5 and she has many great behaviors! Can take her anywhere. Even if you just aim for level 3, you'll have a nice companion with basic skills at home.


• Secrets To Dog Training
  
  http://ponyurl.com/ktx6g7

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