Showing posts with label pet training. Show all posts
Showing posts with label pet training. Show all posts

Monday, November 19, 2012

Dog Health Questions: How do you work with military working dogs?

i want to join the national guard and also become a professional dog training but now ive been thinking why not put the two together but i was wondering what i would have to do to work with dogs in the military or can the national guard even work with dogs?

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You would have to be in law enforcement in one of the branches to work with K-9. MP, SF etc. The problem is I know for a fact that active units such as MP's have dogs and use them and the handlers are sent to school for it but I have never heard of or know of a Guard unit that keeps dogs. Your only there two days a month and two weeks out of the year unless your deployed so I don't think they are going to spend the money to keep a K-9 unit in the Guard for two days a month of use unless you deploy and are K-9 qualified. But in any case yes, you can get the school but only after joining and being accepted for the training.

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  • Based on what I saw in Iraq the only ones that I know of that use dogs is EOD. I'm not sure the National Guard has EOD units so check on that. I flew in a C-130 with an EOD dog - seemed like a nice little guy. Basically what they're trained for is to sniff out explosive residue on bombs and probably also people. I remember dogs coming out on mission a few times when we entered homes but since we (Infantry) weren't handling them I don't exactly remember what the people controlling them did. Definitely an EOD thing though, but not sure if every EOD unit has dogs or not. You'll be in charge of feeding and taking care of them too as EOD and and the dogs are like close buddies and ****. Seemed like a cool job

  • You enlist to be an MP

    Servie 3 or 4 years, make E-4

    Then apply for K-9 school.

    2. As a Guardsmen, you would have to find a National Guard MP unit that had working dogs assigned to it and then move to that state and find a job.

    3. Working dog handler, is NOT an entry level job.

  • Just in case someone with military experience does not come by and give you an answer - I would give an educated guess of MP, or security forces.
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Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Dog training videos for a belgian malinois...?

im looking to get a dvd to HELP train my 5 month old puppy. any advice?

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ok first let me say that you made a fabulous choice in breed. i love the malinois, my all time favorite patient that i ever treated was a malinois and he was the best. that being said go to petsmart or petco they have a lot of books and dvds that focus on training. they range from the basics to more intense training. they also offer classes if you want to have someone else show you in person what to do. good luck and enjoy your puppy

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  • ~ Cesar Millan. I use all of his techniques and I have 10 of the very best well behaved dogs I have ever had. I also show other people how to work with their problems and it works every time. You just have to fully understand what he is saying, and how to apply it.

  • check on youtube if not go to PetCo or a hollywood video or a movie store
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Wednesday, September 12, 2012

Dog Health Questions: How to teach my dog to do this?

Is it possible to train difficult dogs? My dog is friendly, loving, lovable and a great companion. But even by taking her to dog training classes she has always failed to learn any commands. We love her but it's quite obvious she is pretty stupid lol.
Finally I taught her to sit and I know when I say certain things she understands. Like if I say "walk" she runs and hides because she doesn't like being walked. If I'm talking and say "I'm going to bed" she immediately runs down to bed. If I say "Mum" in a sentence she looks at my mum. If I say "Lauren" in a sentence she look at my sister. So it has become obvious she is not quite as stupid as she seems. She is very stubborn and it is impossible to even force her to lie down or touch her paws or roll over. She's only a very small breed of dog and would never dream of hurting anyone but she resists so hard it's just impossible and I don;t want to hurt her. So I want to teach her stuff like how to shut a door, how to jump up onto stuff like a sofa for EXAMPLE.
How do I go about doing this?
Thanks

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What appears as stubborness or stupidity is actually fear. I bet if you used a more gentle tone as cue rather than a command, she would respond better, once she learns not to be afraid of you.

Learning new things in a class full of other dogs can be very intimidating for a dog, espcially one that not accustomed to being in that environement. What that tells me about your dog is that she is out of her comfort level and can't learn, not that she is dumb. Think of a situation where you walked into a room full of strange people, and you felt like they were watching you. Were you able to learn or even perfom something uo already know?

The fact she is afraid of her walks says that she is over threshold for her fear level when she is in that environment.

Dogs that 'freeze' or stop doing anything, refuse behaviors, avoid eye contact, yawn, stretch, turn their head away, or eyes glaze over when you give a command are afraid. Turid Rugaas wrote a book that will help you learn what your dog is communicating to you. It's called "On Talking Terms with Dogs: Calming Signals." You can oder it throguh www.dogwise.com . It's a little book and cheap.

By offering thse behaviors the dog is trying to calm you down in a situation she feels is stressful. When it doesn't work and you talk louder, or keep insisiting she does a behavior, she offers more calming signals in an effort to avoid confrontation. So the cycle escalates.

I'd be interested to know why you think clicker training won't work for her. I think it might be the best thing as it is a hands off training where the dog learns to offer behaviors with no threat of punishment. The communication is very clear "Yes! you did that correctly-and you get a treat for doing so!" And you don't have to actually use a clicker, you can use a marker word like "Yes!" instead.

If she doesn't like treats, it tells me you need to try harder to find something she likes. Cooked liver bits? Bits of hard mild cheese? Cooked chicken bits? I have not yet met a dog that didn't like all of these, even the fussy ones! You can use these to motivate her to learn new things.

Here is a free online training program that teaches you how to train yuor dog and along the way, she'll learn behaviors she needs to be a great family dog.
http://www.dragonflyllama.com/%20DOGS/%2…

I wish I lived closer or I would help you learn how to communicate with and train your dog.

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  • I have a Pitty mixed and he was so stubborn and strong willed it was ridiculous..give her activities that would make her interested and reward her with treats she should catch on. No dog is to difficult to train if given the right amount of time and dedication into their training.

  • It sounds like you just haven't found a training method that works for her - I suggest looking into clicker training.

  • I know some dogs that are difficult to train and it's assumed they're stupid when they can actually be very, very smart. If you have a smart dog it just may take a little more to train her. Try different training methods. Maybe she needs more training then your average dog or maybe she just needs to be more mentally challenged. But all dogs can be trained.

  • treats or the best way plus dvd on learning just don't over treat them but no he may be difficult but he is still trainable

  • If my puppy is not responding to training, I don't blame the puppy, I reevaluate myself. If my puppy is not responding to commands, I change them. Each of my dogs has different words, sounds, hand signals they respond to, so if one is not responding, I just keep running down words or sounds or hand signals until I see what that puppy is responding to. There is no law that says you have to use come, sit, stay, if your dog sits when you say popcorn, then use popcorn. We have doggie stairs, probably bought at walmart of a pet store so our puppies can get on the bed and one for the couch. I think we put a puppy treat on each step until they learned to climb up them. I think you need to just practice with her to find what she responds to. One of my dogs I used signs from sing language, his daughter, I used thumbs up for things I wanted her to do, and I shook my finger at her like I was scolding for things I didn't want her to do. You just have to reevaluate yourself and find what she responds to and run with that.

  • yeah, i've the same problem as you do,
    but since i get dog personal trainer,
    i don't have any problem again with that.
    source :
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Friday, August 31, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Dog training?

i have taught my dog how to sit, laydown, rollover, and to give a paw. now going to try to teach her to speak, any suggestions?

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Amazing website.. things to teach buried all throughout it... read Stitch's blog too!

http://www.dragonflyllama.com/%20DOGS/%2…

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  • Rent the Cesar Milan (The Dog Whisperer) DVDs or Videos you will learn a lot!!! And you will laugh too! I'm glad you like your dog!

  • Come and stay.. Drop it. Bring..

  • I taught my dog to "speak" on command. When he barked, I said "yes, speak" and gave him a treat. Then tell your dog to "speak" again. It may take him a minute or two, but as soon as he barks again, say "yes, speak" and give him a treat again. Do that over and over until he gets it and pretty soon he'll be "speaking" on command. Good luck and have fun!
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Sunday, August 19, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Agility dog classes near Royal Oak, Michigan?

I have a dog who is not confident when away from his home. He has passed his Therapy Dog training but before I take him out, I want to build up his confidence. I have heard agility classes are a good way to do this. Does anyone know of any near Royal Oak, Michigan and/or better ways to make him all around more confident in new situations? His lack of confidence is shown in his tail being down, hesitation in going near strange objects (I once sat with him by a statue downtown for an hour before he finally relaxed and went up to it!), constant sniffing of the entire area (I mean, throwing his entire body into trying to sniff out every square inch if he is on a leash), and jumpyness. He is also weary of some men. Once he is comfortable with a an environment he is a very outgoing and well adjusted attention seeking dog, which makes me think if we could get past the initial insecurities he would love being a therapy dog.

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I teach an intro to obstacles class in Troy, MI. It is not starting for a while, however another great option for building confidence is Rally Obedience. It is very positive and a lot of fun. I have a class starting next Monday (May 7) at 6pm if you are interested.

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  • Do a search for kennel clubs and obedience clubs in Royal Oak or the next largest city. Try the akc.org site.

    Just going to a class regularly will help. So will taking walks in a park near ballgames, soccer, etc. Take him shopping to pet stores. If your family doesn't mind take him with you there, too.

    I would start with a basic obedience class before agility. You need his attention and confidence.

    Always socialize pups as above and keep doing it ..... strart sooner and you won't have this problem

    The problem with this is that if a dog gets really scared of something or someone away from home is that a 'fear biter' will growl. This is a last ditch effort to protect himself.

    Do not grab him and hold him if he growls and tell him it will be O.K. I grab mine by the muzzle so he can't do anything and continue in the same area and then relax, repeat and relax. Once the tail wags, treat !

    Your instructor will help in detail.
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Friday, July 20, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Should I take a job as a dog trainer at Petco? Or keep my Union job?

I was bored one day and filled out the online application, after one of the stores trainers recommended I do while I was toy shopping one day. Two days later I've got an interview. I have a good job now, some would say really good, I know I was lucky to get it. Railroad job..its union w/ full benefits & a pension & I make about 25$/hr with lots over over & even double time. But I HATE...HHHAAATTTEE my job. The only thing that gets me through the days is I look forward to coming home and playing w/ my pup & I've become the local 'dog' guy. Every weekend I help 1-2 people with training their dogs & I have a backyard agility course me and a few people (I've trained) run our dogs through...and it seems like working with dogs for a living would be the best thing ever. Heck, I do it for fun & free on my weekends.

Now I realize Petco isn't the gold standard of dog training, but I figured its a good place to get my feet wet and get some experience on a professional level. I'd taken my pup there for puppy classes because it was cheap and I just wanted to practice w/ distractions ... I've taught dogs agility and dealt with behavioral problems...I didn't need someone to show me 'sit', but it was good socialization in a learning setting I thought. Anywho, I befriended the girl teaching & am all but guaranteed the job if I want it.

Does anyone know what they make? Is it based on commission in anyway for selling training lessons? Someone said you might have to work on the floor or register too, is that true? The girl I know also works in the grooming department washing dogs (she's not trained to cut dogs hair), & that seems the ultimate to me, but is that normal? Does anyone know a better way to break into the dog training world? People who I've helped for free tell me I should have charged (...though they weren't offering $$) & some have suggested I just make a web page or hang fliers...but I don't know if I'd feel right acting like I knew it all...I figured a year or two at Petco and at least I'd have someone to fall back on (the other trainers there) for the beginning of this...its easy to tell someone you can't help when they aren't paying you anyways.

Anyone worked there....taken classes there from a new trainer...quit a good job because you thought you'd be happier at another one??

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Hi

My advice would be to stay where you are..........giving up a pension in this day and economic climate is really senseless!( think you have had a knock on the head, a mad moment or too much sun)

I am not a US citizen and we don't have Petco here in the UK..................but even I know that the people are not qualified to do the jobs they do at Petco.
One friend of mine in the US who shows her dogs and has poodles (so she can groom), applied for a job in Petco as a groomer and was offered a job as a dog trainer, she has no experience of training dogs apart from ring craft with her own dogs.........she took the job and e-mailed me for lesson plans and schemes of work for basic obedience ( basic obedience, I am told is what they do) she ended up on the cash register, wasn't given terms and conditions of employment and had a hell of a job getting out of her 'contract' with them without having to pay them. As she found out, the training is cheap and you get what you pay for and Petco just want people through the door and to sell their products!

I'm a qualified teacher, an Animal /Human behaviourist, a TTouch Practitioner, a member of the Institute of Leadership and Management and I could go on for several pages, have blah blah years experience and knowledge, have written research papers on numerous behavioural aspects in the animal and human world and do CPD.
I own and run a centre with full facilities for training, behaviour,shows etc etc having referrals from vets, rescue centres and people travel from far and wide to come here, including from other countries regularly. Yes people pay for what I know, I am not cheap, however I am also known for taking on dogs that no one else can deal with, even the 'TV trainers' and the big heads who think they are such wonderful trainers, I have staff, I have placement students from University who are doing their degrees in Behaviour, Psychology, Zoology to enable them to complete their degrees. My methods are kind, gentle, motivational and based on behaviour and have been for many years even when it was soooooo unfashionable ............because I KNOW about animal and human behaviour, know how to get the best from each dog and their handlers, yes I use some dog training but dog training is a human invention and not easily understood by dogs.

I think what I am trying to say is stay where you are, don't cheapen yourself with a company like Petco or take a drop in salary, terms and conditions, look at what you are already doing with dog training and make it pay, go and do some CPD around training or behaviour, read up on things like calming signals: 'On Talking Terms with Dogs: Calming Signals by Turid Rugaas' is a good place to start.
Start a new class, one that the people pay for...........remember things that people get for free are often not valued, start small and become a good trainer............and yes in time you can earn a very good living if you know what you are doing, in the last 6 years I have bought two houses, a small holding with 7 acres, built the training facilities, have two cars ( a real one and a sports car) outright and have money in the bank.....and thankfully I can do what I love and don't need my pension

Good Luck

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  • I can't imagine a dog trainer job is even going to pay half of what you are making and probably no benefits like you get in the union job either - can you afford such a drastic cut in income??

  • Money doesn't buy happiness, but it does buy some comfort and help avoid certain misery. Reality is that dog training isn't going to pay you what you are making at the RR. Chances are it might start to come close in 5-10 years if you get really good at what you do and have moved from PetCo to setting yourself up nicely.
    But there is the happiness of doing a job you enjoy and love vs. a job you hate. You have to ask yourself can you live of $10/hr (guessing that's what petco will pay) no OT and still afford the things you want to be comfortable.
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Monday, January 30, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Need some dog training advice from people with experience regarding distractions?

As I mentioned, I adopted an Akita/GSD mix last month. He's five and a half months old. He's a large dog already, standing about two-three inches above my Lab and growing. Hence why I'm trying to nip this behavior in the butt as fast as possible.

We've been working with him since day one with him. We're over his submissive urination (thank God and no bladder infection!) and he's mastered sit which has taken a bit because of the attention issue. The problem we're having is that he is VERY distraction prone and it's nearly impossible to get his attention. I've never had a dog that won't look at you even when you whistle/make odd noise/etc. Both my fiance and I work with him and encounter the same issues so I know it's not just me.

Training sessions range from 5-15 minutes, two to three times a day. If relevant.
We do his training in the kitchen with nothing on the floor or in eye sight that could be distracting as well as the other dogs removed. We've also tried the same thing in the yard but he finds even the sky fascinating so that's not helpful.

Any tips on how to overcome this? I would appreciate the help!

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Have you had him tested for deafness?

What are you doing to make it worth his while to give you attention? How are you reinforcing when he does give you attention?

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FWIW, I find that attention/eye contact training works best when you DON'T use a command or attention getter.

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  • Have you considered "clicker" training? It sounds like if could be a very good solution for you. Clicker training is based on operant conditioning and uses a signal (the clicker) to cue the dog that something good is about to happen. Clicker training is a refinement on rewards based training that allow you to shape a desired behavior using an audible cue followed by a treat. Once the dog is accustomed to the clicker, which takes about five minutes, it's easy to hold their attention.
    Take a look at their web site. They do a good job of explaining the science behind the process and they have materials for people with experience. It sounds like you've trained dogs before so you might be able to simply buy the book. if you'd like help you can find a trained "clicker" training expert in your area using the web site.
    I took my Lab through a clicker training class and I'm sold on the process.
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Monday, January 16, 2012

Dog Health Questions: Dog training question.?

I have a 4 year old german shepard.. when we got him we really didnt know how to properly train a dog , instead we figured he wud just behave on his own... well ofcourse dats not the case so most of his life we have had to keep him either chained or in his crate but i started training him and hes good around the house and hes trained to use the bathroom outside but he has a thing where he likes to jump on my bed and when i try to remove him he gets aggressive. i would like to know what i should do to make him stop jumping on my bed and acting that way cuz im afraid he might bite one day, my other options are putting him to sleep... we tried a shelter... and he didnt eat for 3 days so thats not a option, plz help?

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When he is getting aggressive he is most likely thinking you are playing with him. You need to let him know that you are the dominate "dog" before you put the dog to sleep contact a trainer who does in home sessions. Remember you are always training an animal and that sometimes we as people need to learn how to effectively train ourselves before we can train an animal.

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  • You have to re-establish the fact that you are the boss, not him. Obedience training will help to get the point across. He especially needs to learn the down and stay commands.
    There are also small mats that you can buy online and at pet stores that you place on a bed or couch that will give him a very mild zap to get him off. Good luck!

  • Okay he thinks he is top dog alpha male. When he gets on your bed make him get off and put him in another room. After a little while let him out and every time he doesn't get up there reward him with a treat and LOTS of praise! Don't ever show him aggression and don't ever hit him. Show him alot of love. This might take a while but STAY consistent. Make sure he gets outside to run or take him on walks. And make sure your your signifigant other is involved in this as well

  • Your German Shepherd is most likely a dominant male (I just recently adopted one myself). Being on the bed to a dog is a "status" symbol. To him, only the "top dog" should sleep there and he definetely thinks he's it. And your right, it can be a dangerous situation. By trying to remove him you are in a sense "challenging" him, and if he senses any fear by you about being bitten he won't budge and may give a warning bite to let you know to back off of "his" turf.

    You said he is also crated & chained alot. THAT is the culprit of all your trouble right there. You have a HIGH energy breed (mine can run 10 miles a day along a bike plus gets 2-4 more miles of walks) If you take a race horse and put him in a stall eventually he's gonna get "kicking mad" Not that your dog is "mad" but he is very frustrated. Imagine if you had all the energy in the world, and someone put you in a closet, or bedroom and thats where you stayed with no hope of hardly ever going anywhere else....you would begin to have alot of pent up frustration & energy, this is what your dog is going thru....and the dominant aggression issue is the end result. All dogs must have a minium of 45 min walks per day, preferrably twice a day (some breeds or individual dogs may need more....way more).

    The breed is VERY loyal. He wouldn't eat at the shelter because of this. But a dog will never starve himself to death. Eventually HE WILL eat. However a dog like this may have a hard time being placed. As he's going from a crate to a cage in the shelter, he will not only continue to have the pent up frustration and energy, he is now in a scary new enviroment to boot.

    I would suggest looking for a German Shepherd rescue http://www.petfinder.com (type in German Shepherd in the search box) if you don't want to get a trainer or want to work with him. The shelter would be the 2nd choice.....it's better then just taking him in and having him put down as he at least has a shot at a good home maybe.

    Or......better yet you can work with him. He will repay you 10 fold for it! :) Start by walking him in the mornings and again in the evenings. For now, put him in the crate when you go to bed (crates are like their den so he won't mind if it's only to sleep there). In the meantime, learn how to PROPERLY interact with him and deal with him. This can be done by the following:

    Watch "The Dog Whisperer" on national geographic channel friday evenings (you can also get his DVDs & Book "Cesars Way" off ebay...he shows you WHY your dog is doing what it's doing and how to deal with an aggressive dog).

    For obedience training check out Barbra Woodhouse (you can also find her stuff on ebay or petstores)

    David Dikeman - Command Performance vol 1 & 2 (this is a bit more advance training methods but yields foolproof results, but you have to be commited to working several weeks with the dog using his methods).

    A simple way to train your dog to walk on the leash (as I'm betting thats why you don't walk him....he pulls like a sled dog lol) is get a 6' leash, and holding ONLY the handle walk in a line, as soon as he starts going ahead of you or trying to pull promptly turn the opposite direction with no warning and walk. He will get caught by the leash and learn real fast it's better to stay by your side then out ahead. You can also purchase off ebay for a few bucks something called a "halti headcollar" it works like a horses halter and leads the head so the body must follow......drastically reduces pulling and works quite well. It doubles a muzzle only if the dog suddenly lunges (which prevents biting) otherwise it hangs loose and he can keep his mouth open normally.

    Hope this helps.REY- Read your update. This bite you describe is a warning bite. My GSD I just adopted was a guard dog his whole life and bit me 10 times in a row for being corrected on a leash (that was also the LAST time he did it too.....lol...he's getting better about stuff). If your dog ever does that again, DON'T MOVE just freeze. But this is definetely a DANERGOUS situation. He definetely thinks he's boss in your house & you both. The warning bite is how dogs correct each other....he was "correcting" you for trying to move him off "his" bed. If you have the money, you really need to consult a professional at this point, you have a ticking time bomb on your hands....HE WILL DO IT AGAIN. You will find he's fine....as long as you allow him to do EVERYTHING he wants to do, but as soon as you tell him he can't do something your gonna run into trouble. I still recommend viewing the Dog Whisperer, as I said he will show you WHY your dog is doing this and how to handle it but watching any show is no replacement for a real life trainer. I would suggest at this point maybe finding a rescue for him. There is usually one in every state. If you have any further questions your welcome to email me. Or check out my group at:

    http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/dogwh…Someone here mentioned a prong collar. While this is normally good advice, a prong collar can BRING ON an attack in this situation. This was the VERY REASON my GSD attacked me (and yep it wa fitted properly). If you look on the tag when purchasing one, most will say "not to be used on aggressive dogs". This is because a prong acts like a "bite correction" to the dog that dogs give each other. However, IF YOUR GSD CONSIDERS HIMSELF ALPHA AND THINKS YOU JUST GAVE HIM A BITE CORRECTION (via prong collar, an extension of you) HE VERY WELL MAY TURN ON YOU BIG TIME! Otherwise, that would work to keep him from pulling, but for now I would stick with the halti-headcollar.

  • You have already received some wonderful answers, so I will only add to this based on my personal experience with dogs.

    First, congrats on recognizing that you haven't trained your dog. I wish more dog owners would recognize this. Second, I'm happy you are now training him - it's never too late.

    As was stated by others, your dog thinks he's the "alpha". After a dog is properly obedience trained and you are firmly established as the "alpha", there is nothing wrong with him sleeping on a bed - as long as he knows you are the boss. If you tell him "off" he should immediately respond. If not, you must correct him. But you aren't at that stage yet. First, you have to establish yourself as the "top dog" (or alpha).

    Before working on the bed issue, I'd take a few steps back. Get a prong collar (have someone at the store show you how to properly use it - if not attached to the dog correctly or if used improperly, the collar could be ineffective or painful to your dog) and a leash. Then, empty a can, but about 20 pennies in it and re-seal it (tin foil taped on works fine). Lastly, get some of your dog's favorite treats (kibble is also fine), but make it something he can eat fast.

    Start to go for a walk. A dog that thinks he's in charge will pull you and walk in front of you. It's time to change that. Whenever your dog pulls you, give a jerk on the leash. The leash will tighten the prong collar and give your dog a little "nip" on his neck. This is the exact same nip an alpha dog will give to his packmates in nature (and I don't mean "in the wild", although that is true - but I mean in all packs of dogs. There is always an alpha that emerges who will control the other dogs.). You are giving your dog a nip to say "hey, I don't like that!". Immediately follow that nip with the command "heel" and then show him what heel is (that is, pull him back to your side). Before resuming your walk, tell him to "sit". If he doesn't, jerk the leash again, say "sit" and push him into the sit mode. If he already knows how to sit, then he knows what you mean, he just won't do it. So the jerk on his collar is needed. After he is sitting, then resume your walk.

    Repeat the above as needed. Every time he walks in front of you, pull the leash. Once he gets that he is only to walk by your side, he will stop pulling. The can with pennies serves as a great reminder. If he's walking fairly well by your side, but starts to get a bit ahead of you, shake the can once at him, then firmly say "heel". The noise simulates an alpha dog's bark. This is your way of reminding him that when you say "heel", it means right by your side and nothing more.

    Once you get this down, you have done a lot more than train your dog to walk and sit properly - you have started establishing yourself as the alpha dog.

    Now bring this inside. If your dog hops on the couch, shake that can at him once (do not rattle the can, just one hard shake), with a firm "Off". Do not scream it, do not ask it, just be authoritative. Tell him off. If he doesn't do it, pull him off the couch repeating the command.

    If he shows aggression on the couch as you reach to pull him off, you may have to restart this process. Get him off the couch in some manner - perhaps with a treat. Put his prong collar and leash back on him. When he hops on the couch, repeat the above - shake the can once, then say off. If he doesn't respond, get up, say off, again and then pull him off the couch by the leash. Like with the heel command outside, the jerk on his collar is your nip saying, "Hey! I said OFF the couch and I mean NOW!"

    Treats are important as is praise. For example, during your heel command, jerk him back to you, say "heel" again. When he stands by your side, say "good boy, good heel" and reward with a treat. Same is true for the "sit" command outside. When you get him off the couch with the "off" command, again, say "good boy, good off" and reward with a treat. The goal is to show your dog that when you say something and he ignores you or shows aggression, he will get a nip on the neck or a bark in the ear (with the can). But if he listens to you, he gets lots of praise and a treat!

    I used the couch in my example above as usually dogs love couches. But the same can be used for a bed. Many people, though, love to have their dogs stay on a bed at night. During this training time, this will have to change. You need to establish yourself as the top dog and him on the bed is not good until you are firmly in charge. So he may need to sleep in his crate. Once you have him fully obedient, then he may be allowed back on the couch.

    Do not give him up to a shelter again. That's ignoring the fact that your family are, well, bad dog owners. You did things wrong and when it got out of hand, you blamed the dog and not yourselves. Instead, it's time to take action and train him. I gave you the basic tips above, but I STRONGLY recommend you get him (and yourself) to an obedience training class where you can receive proper instruction on how to train him and how you can be in charge. Trust me, it is worth it. A well trained dog is a joy to be around. You won't fear him biting you. If you need him to be calm, you can make him be so. This is NOT about breaking a dog's spirit - but rather, taking control. Dogs want someone to be in charge. If they fail to see that "alpha" in the house, they will take on that job. However, if you take on that job, they will gladly step aside. That's less stress for them.

    The big trick to training, though, is to be authoritative (never yell or hit, even if you are frustrated - this does nothing), consistent (that is, don't train one way one day and then another way a different day), correct his behavior AS he does it wrong (it does no good to correct his behavior well after the fact) and then reward/praise all good behavior.

    If you start this now, within a month, you should notice a TREMENDOUS difference. By early July, you might have a happier dog that never growls at you. If you want him off the bed, a simple "off" is all you need (and again, all dogs need reminders, so sometimes you need to give him one, by squeezing the top of his neck to give him a "nip" to say "hey, I said off and I'm in charge, so do it now!").

    Hope this helps and good luck!

  • Hi, I had many of the same problems as you training my dog. He was very disobedient!

    I found lots of good information on the internet and talking to my friends who had similar proplems with their pups.

    Starting to ask questions on here is a very good start you will find some good info.

    I hae had lots of success from one site (see sources). I learned to train my dog really fast and It while it took some efoort it is well worth it as now my dog is a joy to be around!
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Thursday, January 5, 2012

Dog Health Questions: DS: The Koehler Method of Dog Training?

What's your opinion? Know any dogs trained with Koehler? How did they turn out?

I'm asking because I'm probably gonna buy the book for my dog, and I'm just wondering how others did using this method. Thanks!

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Yes - I've known more than a few and they turned out very well.

As with everything -- use what works for you and your dog and discard the rest.

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  • I am sure that there are methods in the book that you can incorporate into your own training routine. Just don't take everything as the gospel truth, as with any training method. It depends on the dog and how it responds to which method of training.

    BTW can someone tell me WTF a "qualified" trainer is. I have seen this mentioned on many post today by a level 1 newcomer and have no idea what it means?

    feeling a little bltchy tonight LOL

  • I'm just looking into these training methods. I use to know some people with the most well behaved Dobermans ever and they only trained using the Koehler method.

    About a month ago I purchased a 1962 hard-copy edition in great shape of "The Koehler Method of Dog Training" from half.com for $2.98 (under $7 with shipping).

    I have not read it yet, but you will find some great book scores off of half.com. It's owned by eBay but it's NOT an auction. The sellers are rated like eBay sellers, but you are purchasing outright. I would never purchase from someone with less then a 98% rating.

    Just an FYI.
    .

  • My opinion? Nothing is brilliant about Koehler. Many people think his method is ingenious, but it's anything but! Koehler is old and outdated. Yes, it's been around for decades, but decades have come and gone since then! What was a brilliant training method back then isn't now. This is the 21st century for heaven's sake! Things have changed. People have found more effective ways to train dogs without fear or force.

    William Koehler's training methods are outdated and barbaric! There will ALWAYS be everlasting fans of his unfortunately, but hopefully they will get outnumbered by people who are finding a BALANCE or a MIDDLE GROUND between two very opposite methods aka positive reinforcement and the dominance/alpha/pack leader method.

    I despise this website! http://www.koehlerdogtraining.com/ The two people who wrote that lecture clearly think quite highly of themselves.

    Usually, it's the older generation that swears by Koehler because they're always set in their ways. They don't have the decency to hold their heads up, swallow their pride and realize that there are BETTER training methods!

    I really hope you don't choose this training method for your dog. It's sad to see someone as young as you choose a method that has been scrapped (by anyone who has common sense) for quite a while now.

    ADD: You mentioned in one of your previous questions that you were a teenager.

  • I used this method with an airedale terrier, with disastrous consequences. Note that I did not do it on my own, but attended obedience classes with a trainer who practiced Koehler's methods. My dog turned out aggressive, yet fearful, took 2 1/2 years to housebreak and was completely untrustworthy with other dogs and cats.

  • Not a fan at all....

    It is a must read if you're a serious trainer no doubt but it's beyond dated. Those books HURT more dogs than they help.

    Koehler trained military dogs, if they didn't "survive" his training oh well, junk, get me some new ones they failed. Unless you have the same philosophy with pet dogs, his methods simply don't overlap. The other argument is his work with Disney which is the same concept...if the dog wasn't to his liking aka not hard enough to take the extreme amounts of pressure he put on them, he'd get another dog and write that one off.

    It's also based on a timeline. You can have a loose timeline that's fine, but you're an idiot if you think you can make some "schedule". You bring dogs around when they're ready, you don't follow some schedule. HUMAN error, the dog, his temperament, different things can result in a dog who's slower to catch onto things (or faster). You have to work around the dog unless...like I said before, you trash dogs that don't fit your routine. You can't MAKE a dog be what you want them to be and if the dog is slower there's nothing you can do but be patient.

    If you've taught him everything with reward, and he's blowing off your commands? Feel free to go Bill Koehler on him. He deserves a correction. BUT if his lack of performance is due to you NOT rewarding his good behavior with high value food/toys/play or because you're boring him to death, that's a handler error. You're working with an animal with an attention span of .02 seconds. You have to remain animated, up beat, know when to give treats for his focus etc. I move around, when I get eye contact or good focus I reward etc etc. When the dog has definitely learned what I want, and has learned that training can be fun, then I add corrections if he so chooses not to obey. It's a clear choice. DO it and be rewarded. Don't do it, be corrected, and be forced to do it, and NOT be rewarded. That's plain common sense that even an animal with a 4 ounce brain can understand.

    Like I said, it's an interesting read, but even my mom back in the 70's had surpassed this crap and used food rewards with her dogs (and did very well vs the "never give a dog food or they'll only work for food" crowd).

    Look at the top AKC OB dogs, the top 5 Sch dogs, the top 5 FR dogs, and the top 5 Agility and Mondio Ring dogs and I bet you they all have owners who believe in reward, markers, and motivation before they ever correct a dog. Results speak LOUDLY. The best dog trainers on this planet bar none are French...Germans, Slovaks, Czechs, all make fun of them for being "soft" trainers...but they give corrections when needed and at the end of the day they take WEAKER dogs than the Germans/Czech/Slovaks train, and train them to do MORE. They can bring a weaker dog to competition and win simply because their training is more solid. To me that makes it pretty clear that a bond, and reward based teaching systems + Corrections = well trained dog.

    PS: I know somebody is going to say something stupid such as: "Not everybody trains protection sports"...granted, but in case you haven't noticed 95% of protection sports is obedience, heeling, positions, control under EXTREME drive...if you can control a dog in the situations in protection sports, life around the house/dog park isn't ****. That's why when I talk about training and trainers I talk about these dog sports, that's why some of the best trainers come from these disciplines.

  • I have used some of the methods on Rock. I think that training a dog should be with more than one training method, and it's more of a figuring out what will work best in the current situation. I've never met a dog that's been trained only on the Koehler method, though.

  • I train based upon the Koehler Method. The dogs do great. We get happy, willing workers who live for the praise and think the best place to be in any crisis is at the Heel position with their owner. Bomb-proof dogs. Just tear out the back half of the book. He gets too rough for my taste.

  • I'm currently reading one of his books, but i don't think I've met a straight Koheler trained dog.

    Obviously his methods work, some of them are still good today.

    Personally, I find it harsh at times.

  • I bought the book, joined the group and I found it interesting.

    I agree with some of the basic concepts.....I think its helpful to allow a dog to learn from natural consequences and make the dog pay attention to the handler, since he doesnt know what the handler will do next.

    All my dogs know too much to hit the end of the leash, but I tried doing 90 and 180 degree turns with six of my dogs. Some of them responded very well, and some didnt.

    My sensitive Westie mix shut down. One foster dog, who did not respond to my usual approach to forging, started watching me carefully, and seemed to actually enjoy the training. My big, insensitive Lab mix was unimpressed (but it takes LOT to impress him). The other three dogs started paying better attention.

    Parts of the approach are rougher than I am comfortable with, but I think its definitely worth reading.

  • I grew up with the method, and that was long before Koehler ever wrote a book. I still use the concepts (if not the methods) yet today.
    So to answer your second question; yes, literally hundreds.
    As to how did they turn out? Well I have 122 of these in this notebook covering several different disciplines. http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp43/…
    And it only took me 70 years to do that ;-)
    However, even more important than the method you choose to use is the training program that you apply that method to.
    First decide what you want for a finished dog, then plot out a flow chart of how you intend to get there.
    Here is a flow chart used for training Retrievers that is used by many trainers, including me.
    http://www.totalretriever.com/rj/totalre…
    Each section of the chart represents about 6 months, resulting in a dog that is ready for open all age competition at 2 years of age.

    Oh and Emily, there is no such thing as "positive reinforcement training". Even just ignoring a behavior is a correction, thus training through the use of punishment. If you are using Operant Conditioning, you are using all of it or you are not using any of it.
    "add: i dont just ignore a bad behavior, if its happening, i make a noise, and correct him"
    And that my dear is training through the use of Positive Punishment -- NOT -- Positive Reinforcement

    edit:
    "Usually, it's the older generation that swears by Koehler because they're always set in their ways. They don't have the decency to hold their heads up, swallow their pride and realize that there are BETTER training methods!"

    Now the hair on my neck is bristling!
    Being as I am one of those from the "older generation" (I'm 70), and I can assure you that there isn't a method of training out there that I haven't studied (and observed the results), your premise is WRONG!
    What you are failing to understand is that as time has progressed, so have the methods that pressure is applied during training. Thus my statement above "I still use the concepts (if not the methods) yet today." The harshness of a correction is up to the trainer, not the training method.
    The base concepts of Koehler are the application of Operant Conditioning, pure and simple. The concepts of Koehler are about WHEN a correction is appropriate, NOT how it is applied or how harsh it is. The individual dog will determine the "how and how harsh", not the training method.

    AND, I hold my head up quite high, I have earned the right to do so!
    So what you need to do is try to explain away why it is that those of us from the "older generation" are the ones that just seem to keep right on WINNING in every dog sport there is. Maybe we have learned, through experience, a lot more than you think!

  • you love me??? what???? lol

    but i prefer positive reinforcement, but i know how to use it so its affective.
    its whatever works for you.
    if you have no idea how to rightfully use training methods, dont even try ANYTHING but positive.

    thats my opinion though :)
    my dog, using positive reinforcement, is very obediant and even though he is getting real old, he is still quick to his feet in training.

    what kind of method do you use now?

    add: oh, lol well i wish you both have a happy life together! XD
    but it makes sense dogs are different, i have a lab/pit mix, great dog. just make sure to study up on any method you use(i know you are), dont want to hurt the dogs:) good luck to you!

    add: i dont just ignore a bad behavior, if its happening, i make a noise, and correct him. it makes abosolutly NO sense to the dog if they are getting yelled at for something they did hours ago though,.
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Friday, December 23, 2011

Dog Health Questions: How can I get www.k9edu.com noticed more on the web? It's a dog training business?

I am trying to get my website www.k9edu.com noticed more on the web. Wondering is there any information you would give me to help?

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Make a facebook and twitter account for the business. You could give out fliers, or you can post an ad on facebook! Hope this helped!!!

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    Saturday, November 12, 2011

    Dog Health Questions: Dog training books?

    Can anyone recommend some dog training books available in stores, for an older dog (not puppy) who has already picked up some bad habits that need correcting?

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    Cesar Millan is a very divisive subject in the dog world. He obviously gets a lot of exposure through his books and TV show. I'll lead you to sort out his merits and mistakes for your own. What I will say is this: Millan is a big believer in "alpha" issues and he's less about "training" a dog than he is about dealing with behavioral issues. That's an important point to make: just because a dog doesn't do what you want it to do doesn't mean it's got behavioral problems. Most of the time when a dog piddles in the house, it's not about alpha issues but poor house training.

    Let me offer a couple of basic philosophical positions I take on dog training (nothing unique to me--almost all outstanding trainers and performance dog handlers would tell you this stuff). Dogs want our approval. Dogs do best when they have a job (to provide focus and purpose) and a dog without a job suffers and is generally misbehaved. Dogs don't generalize well (you can teach "come" inside and the dog doesn't automatically get that "come" means the same thing at the park). Dogs learn better by reward and praise than they do with punishment. Dogs learn better when you teach them to DO something than to NOT do something (ie: easier to teach a dog to assume a down-stay position when someone comes to the door than to teach them "don't jump up on a stranger."). Finally, dogs aren't people. Stuff that a human or even a child would "get" a dog won't. So you've got to keep all of this in mind and when training a dog. And finally, whoever said you can't teach an old dog new tricks is wrong when it comes to dogs. In fact, old dogs learn better than new dogs (better attention span and focus--puppies are ADD).

    Two best online sources for dog books are:
    --dogwise (www.dogwise.com) and cleanrun (www.cleanrun.com).
    --Amazon or a Borders may have more total books and reviews but a most of the reviews are clueless--often by someone who knows nothing about dogs or it's the first book they read. I recall reading an Amazon glowing review of a book I'd never heard of before, did a little research and then discovered that the book advocated training a dog with a shock collar at all times--using pain as the way to train.
    --If it is a reputable book about training dogs, cleanrun and dogwise have it.

    One thing I definitely recommend that you read up on is clicker training. Clicker training is based on classical operant conditioning research validated by a century of animal and human research (remember Pavlov's dogs taught to drool at the sound of a bell?). The basis for clicker training is what ALL reputable animal trainers use (well, at Sea World they use whistles with the dolphins and orca's--but the whistle is the same principle). While Karen Pryor's book "Don't Shoot the Dog" explains the principle of clickers brilliantly (for humans and dogs), it's more on theory and concept than practice. For clicker application I'd recommend:
    --Quick Clicks by Smith and Book
    --Clicker Training for Obedience by Spector
    --Karen Pryor's DVD/Video "Clicker Magic"
    I owned and trained 15 dogs without a clicker. Number 16 I use a clicker on. I have no idea how I did it previously without a clicker. Using a clicker is so much faster and accurate. Especially with a dog you've got some issues with.

    As for training issues, it really depends upon where your dog is and what the issues are. For instance, if your dog has received little training and is a bit like an uneducated child than I'd recommend any of Patricia McConnell's books ("Family Friendly Dog Training" is a good one but also "The Other End of the Leash" is good as well). I would also look at Shirley Chong's website (www.shirleychong.com). She has an outstanding section on recalls (the only thing better is Leslie Nielsen's "Really Reliable Recalls" DVD), a section on "101 Uses for a Box" (which is a great training game--it teaches your dog to look to you and look for ways to please you) plus a lot of basic obedience stuff (she has it set up as a mini-course or progression).

    If it's about basic obedience, I'd look at Susan Garrett's "Ruff Love."

    If your dog isn't a biddable dog (ie: it's in his nature not to obey, he's a problem-solver who will do what he thinks is best) than look at Jane Killion's "When Pigs Fly"

    If your dog is reactive and because of stress, fear, over-reaction becomes a mess around other dogs or strangers, than look at either the "In-Focus" series by Deborah Jones and ? (sorry, can't remember her last name) or especially Leslie McDevitt's great book "Control Unleashed."

    Two other resources I want to share with you that by themselves would be insufficient but combined with one of the books above will augment it well:
    --"Crate Games" by Susan Garrett, a great DVD. It talks about how to use your crate to train your dog. Imagine a situation where your dog RAN to get into his crate. And when you opened it, only came out when you released him. And while it seems like it's about just training to like the crate, it's actually about training your dog in a host of different things (control, focus, behavior, obedience) but using your crate.
    --www.clickertraining.com which is Karen Pryor's website. Tons of really great short articles there (how to use a clicker to stop your dog from barking at strangers, how to use a clicker to prevent your dog from jumping up on people at the door). By itself, the website won't teach you all you need to know about using a clicker (or rather it's set up so the articles don't follow sequentially so you'd have a hard time learning how to use a clicker just from the site articles). But in combination with one of the obedience books, you'd learn a lot from this site.

    No-one can really recommend the perfect book for you because it's a question of your dog's personality traits, what training your dog has had previously, what you're like as a handler, and what the "bad habits" are.

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    • Click Here for a Well-Trained Dog by Deborah A. Jones, Ph.D

      Power of Positive Dog Training by Pat Miller

      If Only They Could Speak by Nicholas Dodman

      Dogs Behaving Badly by Nicholas Dodman

      The Dog Who Loved Too Much by Nicholas Dodman

      How Dogs Think: Understanding the Canine Mind by Stanley Coren

      Don't Shoot the Dog!: The New Art of Teaching and Training by Karen Pryor

      The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski

      21 Days to a Trained Dog by Dick Maller

      Everything You Need to Know about House Training Puppies and Adult Dogs by Lori Verni

    • Any book by cesar millian you might also want to catch his show the Dog Whisperer on the National Geographic Channel or see if your local library has some videos by him.

    • Don't Shoot The Dog, and The Power Of Positive Dog Training are good books. Anything by Dr. Ian Miller will be great. Also, Culture Clash by Jean Donaldosn, and The Other End Of The Leash by Patricia McConnell are a couple of other great books. These dog books have more up-to-date training methods that focus on positive dog training.
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    Thursday, October 20, 2011

    Dog Health Questions: How much should dog training classes be?

    I found one near my house for $50 for 5 weeks and want to know if that's reasonable.

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    I just paid $180 for eight weeks. LI NY

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    • Very! That's a great deal. Have fun.

    • thats very cheap. the one's around me are $100 for a 6 week session

    • Quite reasonable. I have seen obedience training class series running about $99 lately.

    • Sounds right for my area. Through a public school system is inexpensive, too.

    • Thats not bad. It all depends on what type of training classes they are.

      The place I took my dog to was pretty reasonable too, but, then I am in Tulsa.

      http://www.tulsadogs.com/classes/class.asp?ccid=1

    • Very reasonable price for 5 weeks! Go for it and have fun!!

    • $10 a session is pretty much the norm for classes that involve other students.. But you have to work loyally with your dog... every day... It is soooo much fun.. you will really like how the two of you bond during this time.

      GOOD LUCK

    • $ 50 sounds a little cheap for 5 weeks of lessons. Make sure you are not getting a deal because the trainer is less knowledgable. Most private trainers off a series of group lessons for $100 to $150. Don't pay more unless it is a private lesson. But a $50 price tag would make me sceptical fo the quality I'd be recieveing,

    • I paid $100 for 8 weeks at Petsmart. We are on week 7 and the classes have been great. I woulddo some research on the "Trainer" if you are unsure.

    • Hi ,
      Well why don't you read this guide , its awesome , it will help you train your dog by yourself , its a really professional training http://www.kingdomofpets.com/dogobedienc… and save you the money , Hope this helps you
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    Wednesday, September 21, 2011

    Dog Health Questions: Is dog training a good career? What can I expect?

    I have read in a few different articles that many careers in the pet businesses and dog training being one of them is a great career to go into for flexibility, stability (because people always spend on their pets) and great income potential as long as you are good at what you do and have a love for it. Would many of you agree with this? What would you say are pros and cons of this career field?

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    I trained dogs as a pro for about 30 years. I found it to be a great "avocation", but it worked out best if I kept my day job.
    Those that do make a good living as a dog trainer do so as much from their handling skills as they do from their training skills. The one problem with relying on handling dogs for a living is that your kids will even forget what your name is. Just to much time away from home for most people.

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    • You can make money with this. I would recommend dog grooming. There is big money and you don't have to deal with owners. This has always been an issue, the dogs are fine, but try to train the owners.

    • I say it has to be something you enjoy doing. If you go into a career for the money, it will likely make you unhappy, but it looks like you already agree with that, so I say go for it.

      In my opinion,
      Pros-you get to work with dogs & will always have a challenge.
      Cons-you have to deal with their idiotic owners.

    • The only places where you are likely to make money as a dog trainer is in large cities. I live in a smaller city and all of our dog trainers only work part time because there is little demand for them. If you want job security and a good income, you need to be in an area where the demand is high.

    • Generally speaking there are few careers in dog training as an employee. I would expect dog training jobs to be a dead end. It's honest work though and you will gain experience and if you are exposed to the right methods, expertise. Rather, you should expect to start your own business at some point in your developing expertise. Because of that, it's really an entrepreneurial field. You have to figure out how to add accounts, and eventually you'll overreach your limit as an individual and you'll need to deal with employees. You can also generate revenue some other way with a book, video, equipment sales or franchises. Other ways to expand business would be to add boarding, but that generally involves a substantial real estate investment.

    • It takes TIME to get to a point where you're able to go out on your own and train at a level where you have a steady clientele and enough money coming in to support your own business.

      The kind of trainer that is SUCCESSFUL is one who spent ten plus years gaining experience: seminars, mentoring under other trainers, titling their own dogs, working in real life situations, volunteering at shelters/vets/kennels, etc. That's ten plus years generally working minimum wage or slightly above it, most likely with another job on the sidelines.

      If you think you want to do it, then go for it. Do some research into local trainers if you plan to stay where you're at now. See what is being offered, and what your competition is likely to be. See if anyone is willing to TALK to you about mentorship. Find seminars. Volunteer places.

      There are no college degrees for training. Yes, there are programs out there that offer six to eight weeks of "certification training" but nine out of ten of these are SHAMS where you work ONE dog and don't get any practical experience with multiple training types. Be very careful about these programs and if you find one that seems decent (IE you work under an actual trainer who has titles and awards, you work in real life situations, you get hands on work with MULTIPLE dogs and with MULTIPLE training methods, etc) then think of it as a starting point and not a "get accomplished quick" thing.

      http://www.inch.com/~dogs/protrainer.htm…

    • heres a good blog for dog training :

      www.free-dog-training-tips.com
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